Author Topic: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap *Glow plug wiring time*  (Read 31786 times)

Reply #90December 09, 2012, 09:09:45 am

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #90 on: December 09, 2012, 09:09:45 am »
There is a thing of too light. I think the general consensus was around 65% of the aaz flywheel stock weight and it still was ok for vibration. I think zukgod1 had one that was 6lbs and said it was bad. Which would have been a tick less than 50% of stock weight. Stock weight was IIRC 12.8 lbs.

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Reply #91December 09, 2012, 12:07:00 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #91 on: December 09, 2012, 12:07:00 pm »
My AAZ flywheel weighed 12.6 and was taken down to 8 lbs
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Reply #92December 09, 2012, 12:35:28 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #92 on: December 09, 2012, 12:35:28 pm »
The current flywheel on my mTDI weighs 16.5 lbs.  There's noticeably more vibration at idle.  When I replace it to upgrade the clutch I will go with a stock weight one. 

Reply #93December 09, 2012, 12:49:15 pm

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« Reply #93 on: December 09, 2012, 12:49:15 pm »
..so some folks say lighter, some say stock, some say g60 flywheel which is 21 lbs?
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Reply #94December 09, 2012, 01:01:59 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #94 on: December 09, 2012, 01:01:59 pm »
Lighter might be good for quick launch, but the price may be more vibrations and harmonics.

(My first VW had an aluminum flywheel, but that was a Beetle with a Corvair six.)

Reply #95December 09, 2012, 01:08:32 pm

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« Reply #95 on: December 09, 2012, 01:08:32 pm »
all i need to know at this point is will this kit work on my flywheel? this kit paired with a smf flywheel says it will handle 275 ft lbs which will be fine for me should i expect the same results using this with a stock flywheel.
http://www.idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2832
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Reply #96December 09, 2012, 01:22:21 pm

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« Reply #96 on: December 09, 2012, 01:22:21 pm »
The pressure plate and the disc determine the clamping force, not the flywheel (unless it is machined with the wrong distance between the two steps).

Reply #97December 09, 2012, 03:27:27 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #97 on: December 09, 2012, 03:27:27 pm »
Much debate on the topic. I lost 4 pounds on my flywheel on my NA AAZ and that thing reved awesome, and it didn't vibrate excessively or anything strange.

but you lose bottom end pull, right off the line..

there isnt as much spinning inertia, so it will take more pedal to keep everything spinning when you take off..

diesels dont rev that high, or that fast.. i see no need for a lightened flywheel..

ive run stock 19# wheels, stock 12# wheels, and even a 9 or 10# wheel once..

the 19# wheel really makes it hard to hook the tires up..

it just breaks them loose and turns them to smoke whenever you shift hard..

the lightened wheel was so weak, that i ended up separating the engine and trans just to switch back to a standard gasser flywheel..

my car shook worse, and it didnt have near as much pull right off the line..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #98December 09, 2012, 10:14:41 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #98 on: December 09, 2012, 10:14:41 pm »
Yup Kev, I agree.. Lightened flywheels?? ARE WE RUNNING HONDA'S??

Wanna know what revs an engine up quicker? Faster boost and fueling ;)

Reply #99December 09, 2012, 11:10:04 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #99 on: December 09, 2012, 11:10:04 pm »
Yup Kev, I agree.. Lightened flywheels?? ARE WE RUNNING HONDA'S??

Wanna know what revs an engine up quicker? Faster boost and fueling ;)

making the engine breathe better improves throttle response..

when i changed from stock manifolds, to modified manifolds, i noticed a change in throttle response..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #100December 13, 2012, 04:21:07 pm

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #100 on: December 13, 2012, 04:21:07 pm »
Few updates.

1. tdi clutch disc and vr6 pressure plate
2. mk4 shifter conversion with Audi tt oe short shifter
3. pd150 with intake with racepipe  e-g-r delete.

Still haven't started the work though yet.
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Reply #101January 16, 2013, 10:29:00 am

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Re: b3 passat wagon 16v to MTDI swap.
« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2013, 10:29:00 am »
looking for some advice on IC.
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Reply #102January 16, 2013, 12:52:33 pm

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Reply #103January 16, 2013, 01:18:07 pm

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« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2013, 01:18:07 pm »
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Reply #104January 24, 2013, 11:02:52 pm

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« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2013, 11:02:52 pm »
received the intercooler today really nice setup for the money.
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