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October 30, 2012, 01:46:40 am

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Has anyone seen this mess?
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Reply #1October 30, 2012, 05:10:07 am

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
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Reply #2October 30, 2012, 10:28:47 am

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2012, 10:28:47 am »
I don't see two pumps on the volvo.

Reply #3October 30, 2012, 02:41:42 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2012, 02:41:42 pm »
2 pumps, HOW THE F?!

and WHAT THE F?

double 2 cylinder pumps?
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #4October 30, 2012, 03:19:39 pm

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2012, 03:19:39 pm »
Its chain drive  below the stock one...
You can see the injector lines are T'ed in the vid, but here's a  pic.
http://www.garaget.org/?car=165910&image=1572144

Double stock pumps, no breakey  drive shaft at high RPM, well not the pump drive one anyway.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 03:21:10 pm by 745 turbogreasel »

Reply #5October 30, 2012, 03:26:35 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2012, 03:26:35 pm »
holy shizzz...

you in theory have 2x fueling with 2 pumps, at the same RPMs, right?

wouldnt it be pretty important to have both pumps tuned IDENTICAL?!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #6October 30, 2012, 03:40:58 pm

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2012, 03:40:58 pm »
That's nuts. I've never seen anything like that with a VE pump. Anybody know where we could find more info on that one?
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Reply #7October 30, 2012, 06:00:47 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2012, 06:00:47 pm »
All that smoke shouts that it doesn't burn too well. Drilling and tapping an extra injector into each of those combustion chambers must have been bit of a chore. What is the horsepower limit of a single VE pump? 25kw per pot? x4 pots, x1.34102209 for horsepower, gives 134 horses. Okay I see why they might try this. Heath Robinson and Rube Goldberg would be proud. ;D

Reply #8October 30, 2012, 06:04:10 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2012, 06:04:10 pm »
I don't think the timing  really does have to be spot-on, plenty of OEMs  use split shot injection.

There is no extra injector, just a T in the delivery pipe, and  delivery valves keep anything from  going the wrong way.
It also lets you get a ton of fuel without a big heavy  plunger that doesn't like High  RPM,  and a nice gentle camplate that won't skip as easy.
Makes sense, but seems like a lot of work  to get right.

Added bonus, limp home if a pump fails.


« Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 06:11:04 pm by 745 turbogreasel »

Reply #9October 30, 2012, 08:22:11 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2012, 08:22:11 pm »
That was as much exhaust as everyone on the forum makes in one year.
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Reply #10October 30, 2012, 08:26:24 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2012, 08:26:24 pm »
That was as much exhaust as everyone on the forum makes in one year.

nah, diesels make LOTS of exhaust..

that D24 was barely running.. i wasnt impressed.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11October 30, 2012, 09:23:49 pm

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2012, 09:23:49 pm »
If my Swedish translator is right, it makes over 350HP.  Maybe not too surprising it's a bit cold blooded?.

Reply #12October 30, 2012, 09:26:53 pm

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Re: Has anyone seen this mess?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2012, 09:26:53 pm »
There is no extra injector, just a T in the delivery pipe, and  delivery valves keep anything from  going the wrong way.

The VW one had two sets of injectors.

Reply #13October 30, 2012, 10:12:38 pm

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2012, 10:12:38 pm »
So it does, must be a long tunnel to the combustion chamber.
Here's a twin pump 6.5 setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwFWNReCmck

Reply #14October 31, 2012, 12:40:42 am

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