Author Topic: TTY head bolts - more than you might want to know.  (Read 22781 times)

Reply #60December 17, 2012, 10:53:36 am

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Re: TTY head bolts - more than you might want to know.
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2012, 10:53:36 am »
i go one step further, i use copper anti-seize, or pipe thread sealant on ALL the head bolts i re-install..

You re-install headbolts? Dude, this whole thread is about replacing them ;D :P

Tyler, not all engines on this planet use TTY bolts..

yes, i DO re-use TTY head bolts ONE TIME, after measuring them..
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Reply #61December 27, 2012, 07:26:29 am

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« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2012, 07:26:29 am »

wtf you talking about?



does it matter who i am?

i DO know that you give BS advice over at the whoretex all the time..

you should never install or torque your head bolts DRY..
i never commented on oiling bolts, i did say i use copper anti-sieze if you'd bother to read what i posted, and that the head bolts i've recently bought have some sort of copper anti-sieze with them.
i'll say this (rather like again) cleaning the bolt holes in the block is important, esp if you do use (light) oil on head bolts.(or any other bolt like this situation, ie encased.)
....edit....leave it to PM's if need be, but never on the board.
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Reply #62December 27, 2012, 04:28:22 pm

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« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2012, 04:28:22 pm »
also its very smart to get most dirt and gum out of holes too, and its not uncommon to have some, esp if someone else owned car. and considering your taking the head off and some is going to go down in those holes...

Reply #63December 28, 2012, 12:04:02 pm

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« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2012, 12:04:02 pm »
i saw at least 1 post of using brake clean and compressed air.++.
i take this statement back; if you use compressed air the cleaner dirt, etc. mix is going down the water jackets and oil holes.

Reply #64December 28, 2012, 12:27:33 pm

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« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2012, 12:27:33 pm »
Advice in another topic suggested solvents & compressed air - but covering the blowback with a rag to collect the debris and dirty solvents and to protect one's eyes (and ears).  That rag also kept stuff out of other passages and the bores when I did it that way.

It is a fairly trivial matter when the engine is on a stand  - simply turn the block on its side to have the schmutz blow out the hole and away from the block, with or without the rag. (Oil may seep from the main gallery, so a small plug can be useful.)


Reply #65December 28, 2012, 02:26:26 pm

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« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2012, 02:26:26 pm »
i saw at least 1 post of using brake clean and compressed air.++.
i take this statement back; if you use compressed air the cleaner dirt, etc. mix is going down the water jackets and oil holes.

Reply #66December 28, 2012, 06:42:35 pm

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« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2012, 06:42:35 pm »
Advice in another topic suggested solvents & compressed air - but covering the blowback with a rag to collect the debris and dirty solvents and to protect one's eyes (and ears).  That rag also kept stuff out of other passages and the bores when I did it that way.
using a rag is all i wanted to know, that clarifies that

Reply #67December 28, 2012, 07:41:50 pm

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« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2012, 07:41:50 pm »
this one is just for you, im not trying anything more than to clarify this
as seeing what just happened im just saying 1 thing.
i never said I put x,xxxk miles on my cars, but they do have that(apx).
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Reply #68December 29, 2012, 11:00:59 am

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« Reply #68 on: December 29, 2012, 11:00:59 am »

Got the TD fired up for the first heat cycle and subsequent 90o re-torque.

FWIW, all the bolts (TTY) topped in the region of 140 ft-lb.

While the final torque is itself not the most important issue (clamping force is), it may be helpful to others to know what can be expected.



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