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Reply #30September 23, 2012, 05:58:32 am

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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2012, 05:58:32 am »
If you look close, it's the same thing with a different head.
If you weren't busy getting offended, you'd also see your pump head  to support 140HP stock.

Reply #31September 23, 2012, 10:12:44 am

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2012, 10:12:44 am »
If you look close, it's the same thing with a different head.
If you weren't busy getting offended, you'd also see your pump head  to support 140HP stock.
Offended? Not the slightest. Annoyed is more accurate. I hate reading through page after page of "discussion" that has nothing to do with original thread. That is bad enough when I am researching myself, but when it occurs on a thread I start, yeah it's irksome. 



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Reply #32September 23, 2012, 01:47:55 pm

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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2012, 01:47:55 pm »
Good enough, now all that is solved and can be put to rest.

If you have specific further questions let us know. I haven't commented as I have never touched a 5 cylinder other than the 300D mercedes and that is no where near what your engine is. I am sure if you asked something that others and I knew more of we could help in the items that cross over between the 2 engines.

Reply #33September 25, 2012, 01:15:54 pm

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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2012, 01:15:54 pm »

porsche 924/927 AFAIK... fits the TD5.


Must . . . resist  . . . urge . . . to buy 4kTD and 924 donor cars!

But I'm with everyone else here. Tuned TD 5's are uncommon even on this specialist site, and It'd be great ground to break.  You'd have great low rpm response, and your idle would be decent compared to a diesel four banger.  And Giles does I5's too; one of his vids on his company site is of him getting a tuned injection pump TD5 running!  The only snag I see is of finding a better turbo setup, and you may be able to lean on the gasser crowd on that font.  Finally, all that plus quatro?  You'd be the belle of the vwdiesel.net ball!  So GO FOR IT!  8)

well, considering the TD5 manifold comes with a T25 flange factory, i would say that the potential for turbo upgrade is GREAT..

ive been thinking of running my GT2056V on my 2.0TD.. its a T25 flange, but would need a bit of re-clocking to fit right..

if you dont want to run the stock TD manifold, or dont have one.. then the trbo gas motors had a flange SIMILAR to the T25, as well as an external wastegate..
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Reply #34September 25, 2012, 05:50:16 pm

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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2012, 05:50:16 pm »

porsche 924/927 AFAIK... fits the TD5.


Must . . . resist  . . . urge . . . to buy 4kTD and 924 donor cars!

But I'm with everyone else here. Tuned TD 5's are uncommon even on this specialist site, and It'd be great ground to break.  You'd have great low rpm response, and your idle would be decent compared to a diesel four banger.  And Giles does I5's too; one of his vids on his company site is of him getting a tuned injection pump TD5 running!  The only snag I see is of finding a better turbo setup, and you may be able to lean on the gasser crowd on that font.  Finally, all that plus quatro?  You'd be the belle of the vwdiesel.net ball!  So GO FOR IT!  8)

well, considering the TD5 manifold comes with a T25 flange factory, i would say that the potential for turbo upgrade is GREAT..

ive been thinking of running my GT2056V on my 2.0TD.. its a T25 flange, but would need a bit of re-clocking to fit right..

if you dont want to run the stock TD manifold, or dont have one.. then the trbo gas motors had a flange SIMILAR to the T25, as well as an external wastegate..
Good to know! I was thinking compounds on the TD5 would be hilarious!
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Reply #36September 25, 2012, 09:28:48 pm

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Re: Tuning potential of Audi 2.0 TD
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2012, 09:28:48 pm »
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then the trbo gas motors had a flange SIMILAR to the T25, as well as an external wastegate..

I thought we decided that the turbo gas exhaust manifold wouldn't work because the external wastegate would get in the way of the rear cam sprocket.
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Reply #37September 26, 2012, 02:31:11 pm

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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2012, 02:31:11 pm »
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then the trbo gas motors had a flange SIMILAR to the T25, as well as an external wastegate..

I thought we decided that the turbo gas exhaust manifold wouldn't work because the external wastegate would get in the way of the rear cam sprocket.

block off plate..

unless its the MANIFOLD hitting the rear cam sprocket..
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Reply #38September 29, 2012, 01:15:47 pm

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Re: Tuning potential of Audi 2.0 TD
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2012, 01:15:47 pm »
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then the trbo gas motors had a flange SIMILAR to the T25, as well as an external wastegate..

I thought we decided that the turbo gas exhaust manifold wouldn't work because the external wastegate would get in the way of the rear cam sprocket.

block off plate..

unless its the MANIFOLD hitting the rear cam sprocket..
Yes there is definitely a clearance issue in the back..It is because of the vacuum pump location...
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Reply #39September 30, 2012, 12:16:02 pm

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2012, 12:16:02 pm »
So how does this look for 129K? I will upload pics of the bearing surfaces when I get there...

Thank god MY 2.0TD wasn't a GREASE CAR!!! It was off the road well before that concept took off..
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Reply #40September 30, 2012, 03:59:04 pm

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Re: Tuning potential of Audi 2.0 TD
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2012, 03:59:04 pm »
If you look close, it's the same thing with a different head.
If you weren't busy getting offended, you'd also see your pump head  to support 140HP stock.

140hp TDI and 140hp IDI is NOT the same fuel volume... But yeah, there is lots of headroom anyway ;)
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Reply #41September 30, 2012, 10:46:12 pm

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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2012, 10:46:12 pm »
TDI has 11mm pump stock, 2,0 IDI has 10mm. 2,4 5-cylinder has 8mm pump.
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Reply #42October 01, 2012, 07:29:35 am

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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2012, 07:29:35 am »
TDI has 11mm pump stock, 2,0 IDI has 10mm. 2,4 5-cylinder has 8mm pump.
Good to know....So the pump on my 2.0TD is capable of supporting some power? <200 hp or so?
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Reply #43December 19, 2012, 02:18:58 pm

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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2012, 02:18:58 pm »
Here's a good link to a guy who put a 2.0TD into a Vanagon Syncro.  He installed some sort of oil circulation pump to resolve the oiling issue.  There's a picture of it titled "Prelube Pump" down near the bottom of the page.  There's a lot of useful info including how he repaired the head and used a metal head gasket from a 2.4 Eurovan Diesel.  He obviously has access to a lot a machining equipment which I don't, but he appears to have made an excellent engine.

http://vanagonsyncroproject-herman.blogspot.com/2007/02/new-engine.html
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Reply #44December 19, 2012, 02:53:41 pm

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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2012, 02:53:41 pm »
If you look close, it's the same thing with a different head.
If you weren't busy getting offended, you'd also see your pump head  to support 140HP stock.

140hp TDI and 140hp IDI is NOT the same fuel volume... But yeah, there is lots of headroom anyway ;)

and funny enough idi can do 200bhp with 9mm plunger but i have yet to see a tdi do that, i don't even know that its been done with a 10mm plunger.  but i know this is due to revs and not efficiency.
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