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Reply #15September 15, 2012, 09:49:43 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2012, 09:49:43 am »
Clutch depends on the transmission used, and injectors depend on power level wanted, turbo used, and what you desire from the engine. Also a tune should be considered for injectors.

Reply #16September 15, 2012, 10:58:19 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2012, 10:58:19 am »
What if I just run oem stuff and don't beat on it?
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Reply #17September 15, 2012, 11:01:14 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2012, 11:01:14 am »
Not sure about injectors being an IDI guy, but 02a can run a Sachs G60 kit.  21lb flywheel, with a clutch and PP setup that is advertized as being able to withstand 300 ft/lbs of torque.  If aiming for more, a SBC stage 2 endurance clutch kit would be a good choice.  Pricey, but the lining on the FW and PP help control high temperatures and prolong clutch life.  IDparts has a special on the Sachs unit right now: http://idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=764


Reply #18September 15, 2012, 12:21:20 pm

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2012, 12:21:20 pm »
I have not seen anything indefinite either way but I think idi that injectors do not make much difference because fuel mixing is already very good due to the swirl chambers I think there might be gains for us with different or modded swirl chambers the gm guys experiment with this.  And one our forum members will be soon too!
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Reply #19September 15, 2012, 02:56:31 pm

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2012, 02:56:31 pm »
holy smokes 400 bucks for a clutch.  :o. I just wanna get good milage and have car that wont breakdown.  ;D
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Reply #20September 15, 2012, 03:26:36 pm

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2012, 03:26:36 pm »
passat = 02a for ease... sadly 02a clutch = big $ vs 020... even in stock parts...


Reply #21September 15, 2012, 03:48:40 pm

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2012, 03:48:40 pm »
Well it is still some work to fit an 020 to a B3 as I am sure i have read recently. I get 50mpg out of my AHU 84, consistently.

Reply #22September 15, 2012, 08:04:56 pm

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2012, 08:04:56 pm »
-2000 in donor car
-800 in receiver car
-1000 for mtdi pump
-400 clutch and flywheel
-250 for 02a clutch cable swap
-??? injectors (idea of price on these)?
+600 for e-tdi stuff
+scrap money and part out money
-several hundred in exhaust and other random sh*T

So i got 4grand into this build by this list
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Reply #23September 16, 2012, 01:30:42 am

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2012, 01:30:42 am »
Veg Injection nozzles, I got my .216's for $120CAD shipped.

Reply #24September 16, 2012, 08:11:28 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2012, 08:11:28 am »
What is the deal with stuff I've read about pre chambers falling out of idi's and ruining the engine. how likely is it to actually happen?
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Reply #25September 16, 2012, 09:13:01 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2012, 09:13:01 am »
seeing that there are probably millions of vw IDI diesels and we only know of mabye a few handfuls, it isn't likely. But the older these engines get and the more power pumped to them the more likely it will become I think. Mine ruined basically everything but the crank, IM shaft, 3 rods, cam, and the valves not in #3 cylinder. Everything else was completely wasted, so if it does happen it is a bad day. 

Reply #26September 16, 2012, 09:33:33 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2012, 09:33:33 am »
i think especially in stock form it is very uncommon
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Reply #27September 16, 2012, 05:24:48 pm

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2012, 05:24:48 pm »
the aaz i can get is looking like a better option. lower miles and such. in canada though so im not sure about importing a car.
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Reply #28May 19, 2016, 09:43:28 pm

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2016, 09:43:28 pm »
Where is a good place to buy a mTDI injection pump? I know Giles will build me on but I have to send him two pumps - a 1.6TD and a Rover mTDI pump. He does great work but I am just wondering who else or what else might I consider for a Mk1 conversion use?
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Reply #29May 20, 2016, 01:44:40 am

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Re: pros and cons 1.6td vs 1.9aaz vs tdi.
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2016, 01:44:40 am »
Rover pump is the easiest way to go in my opinion. Bolts up with a small amount of machine work and seems to run quite well even with plain stock settings.

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