Author Topic: MK1's and the ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans  (Read 12558 times)

Reply #30September 03, 2012, 09:51:53 pm

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Re: WTB - NTB ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2012, 09:51:53 pm »
I have the 90mm ACN, I also have brand new non oem axles on both sides. I would think grinding them down would solve it.

Reply #31September 03, 2012, 10:03:19 pm

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Re: WTB - NTB ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2012, 10:03:19 pm »
keep in mind the passenger side isn't the issue it's the drivers side.
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Reply #32September 03, 2012, 10:11:15 pm

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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2012, 10:11:15 pm »
otherway around - the longer one is diff
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Reply #33September 03, 2012, 10:19:49 pm

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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2012, 10:19:49 pm »
I meant as far as worrying about it rubbing and backing the bolt out.
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Reply #34September 03, 2012, 10:38:08 pm

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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2012, 10:38:08 pm »
yes - good to keep in mind and lets see - maybe in a few days some of us may find out for ourselves (  :
I wonder if there would be a way to recess the part there where the nut taps onto trans axle shaft - maybe grind that down too - between both being ground I bet the 90s would work just fine with 80% shim kit!
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Reply #35September 03, 2012, 10:41:43 pm

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Re: WTB - NTB ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2012, 10:41:43 pm »
No nut, it is a flat socket head cap screw, but yes I did that to mine as well and it is working on the 100mm. On the FSHCS you do not have much socket for the hex key to engage so don't go hog wild.

I will be moving this post as it has more in common with your other thread, and nothing on the sale part since I can remember.

Reply #36September 05, 2012, 10:52:09 pm

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Re: WTB - NTB ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2012, 10:52:09 pm »
since the 100mm flanges are of different configuration in depth or heigth compared to the 90s it stands to reason that measuring from outer edge of one flange to the other might not be the same length which comes into play when getting correct size CV axles - did you use Mk1 CV axles? do you have the 100mm flanged ACN or the 90mm - I was thinking of getting the 100mm because I wanted to install the 80% shim kit so was thinking of going 100mm flanged ACN but was not sure just what CV axles to use in Mk1 with Mk2 tranny - but if the 80% shim kit works fine with the 90mm flanged ACN after grinding of end of CV axle then that is the way to go! What do you think?

uh, ACN trannies only came with 90mm flanges, unless you swapped them like me..
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Reply #37September 05, 2012, 11:33:22 pm

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2012, 11:33:22 pm »
one 87 Rocco 16V that I know of had 100mm flanges
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Reply #38September 06, 2012, 12:41:42 pm

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Re: WTB - NTB ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2012, 12:41:42 pm »
one 87 Rocco 16V that I know of had 100mm flanges

87 rocco never came w/ an ACN trans..

they never made a large input shaft/100mm ACN..

that trans was surely fitted to the rocco by someone else..
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Reply #39September 06, 2012, 01:56:06 pm

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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2012, 01:56:06 pm »
ok - thanks for info ror-2.0 - I wonder if bbob 203 has installed his shim kit on 90s yet? - I don't know how to post pics here but if you wanted to look at my CV axle end spacings with C clip I can send some via email - [email protected] - anytime - just email me - I have checked various CV axles here at home and the 90s measured 3.14mm depth from end of axle to C clip while 100s meausured 3.74. So from these measurements it looks like ther would be more clearance gained when grinding axle ends by choosing 100s - but as theman53 also said he had to grind off "flat socket head cap screw, but yes I did that to mine as well and it is working on the 100mm" to finally get enough room for his so if one is going to grind both surfaces for 100mm then why not do so with 90mm alxes and trany if that will achieve what is needed as far as clarence for 80% Peloquin shim kit???
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Reply #40September 06, 2012, 06:48:49 pm

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Re: MK1's and the ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2012, 06:48:49 pm »
someone just try and do this already..

or someone ship me a kit, and i will be the guinnea pig..
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Reply #41September 07, 2012, 01:04:57 am

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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2012, 01:04:57 am »
I might just as well do it, I need more traction before the snow flies in October.

Reply #42September 07, 2012, 01:34:07 am

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Re: MK1's and the ACN - AON - ASF - ACL 020 VW Trans
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2012, 01:34:07 am »
I might just as well do it, I need more traction before the snow flies in October.

arent these shim kits stupid cheap?

can i make my own?
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89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #43September 07, 2012, 11:13:31 am

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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2012, 11:13:31 am »
shim kits are 99 bucks - one could easily enough add the 2.32mm thick washer - for 40% but for 80% shim kit one will also need to add retaining ringged cap with countersunk fastener - that would be tricky to make - unless one is a machinist - I would gind down the kit's countresunk fastner until almost flush with ringed cap which would give one about 2.0 mm clearance as this is what theman53 ground down to get his needed clearance

first three pic are of Mk1 CV axles - drivers side with 100mm on left  and 90mm on right
last three pics are also Mk1 CV axles - passengers side with 100mm on left and 90mm on right

with 100s axle ends sticking up past C clip .5mm consistently more -

preload shim washer is 2.32mm thick -  - 
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Reply #44September 07, 2012, 09:17:36 pm

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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2012, 09:17:36 pm »
I bought washers at the hardware store and bought the machined caps from peloquins for 25 bucks. haven't put em in yet though.
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