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Reply #15August 31, 2012, 02:10:16 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 02:10:16 pm »
Morning all,

I am sure that this must be the right place to ask! Once you have all tuned your idi's you must have found (like me) that the std front pads get a little warm on spirited drives.

I have a lovely twisty last 30 miles on my commute and it makes the pads smoke and I am suffering from brake fade.

I have the std solid front discs and i don't wish to upgrade the parts.

there must be a pad that is better suited to a tuned aaz?

Does anyone have anything or perhaps a recomendation of what type I should try and source.

Thanks in advance

Nathan    

just upgrade to vented rotors.. they make a HUGE difference..

vented rotors with stock pads will be better than solid rotors with good pads..

and IDK why all you guys are telling him to get mk2 parts..

mk2s have 9.4" rotors..

mk3s have 10.1" rotors..

they are 100% different, and not interchangeable.. trust me, i tried.

just get some vented mk3 rotors, and a set of decent pads to go with them..

how come canada got crappy brakes, but better engines?!
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #16August 31, 2012, 02:42:31 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 02:42:31 pm »
ror... what is being said is aaz mk3 have mk2 style 9.4" solid rotors... i find that hard to swallow myself... i want to know if caliper carrier bolts on... :D or molded in like a mk2...

Reply #17August 31, 2012, 03:37:54 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 03:37:54 pm »
how come canada got crappy brakes, but better engines?!

Because a stock mk3  AAZ needs nothing more than a 9.4 to stop safely? lol Loooot less people on the roads up here too. Remember you guys have 330 million more people than we do for population ;) lol

Reply #18August 31, 2012, 06:22:26 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 06:22:26 pm »
ror... what is being said is aaz mk3 have mk2 style 9.4" solid rotors... i find that hard to swallow myself... i want to know if caliper carrier bolts on... :D or molded in like a mk2...

only the early mk2 cars were 1 piece knuckles..

any of the later mk2s, with big wheel bearings, had a 2 piece knuckle and caliper carrier..

my mk2 jetta GL had 2 piece knuckles and carriers.. and solid 9.4" rotors..

i eventually upgraded to Audi Coupe GT vented front rotors..

and then upgraded again to mk2 GLI/GTI brakes (same thing as the 10.1" brakes that came on the mk3 2.0 cars)

i would imagine that the caliper carriers bolt on like the late mk2 hardware was..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #19August 31, 2012, 09:12:24 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 09:12:24 pm »
any of the later mk2s, with big wheel bearings, had a 2 piece knuckle and caliper carrier..

None of my cars had that, they were all single piece. Maybe it was a diesel thing?
Tyler

Reply #20August 31, 2012, 09:47:29 pm

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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2012, 09:47:29 pm »
only 2 piece mk2 i know of are 10.1" front brake stuff 88+... every 9.4 is molded that ive seen..

88 is also the year they went to the *** bigger bearing... aka good for up to 80k till fail... the older ones ive seen go 300k... bigger not always better... they also made the ball joint bigger too in 88.. they too fail before the smaller ones do/did...

keep forgetting $00.00 coupe is 4x100 wheels... 4kq is 4x108?? same as 5k...

Reply #21September 01, 2012, 12:24:51 am

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2012, 12:24:51 am »
I'm getting some vented 9.4's for the 88 TD :)

Reply #22September 01, 2012, 03:14:47 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2012, 03:14:47 pm »
any of the later mk2s, with big wheel bearings, had a 2 piece knuckle and caliper carrier..

None of my cars had that, they were all single piece. Maybe it was a diesel thing?

all my gasser cars have 2 piece knuckles, that were post 88...

only my OLD early mk2s had the single piece knuckles.

maybe thats another one of the "upgrades" canada got?!

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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #23September 01, 2012, 05:31:20 pm

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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2012, 05:31:20 pm »
Other than my 2 85 Jettas and a 92 Passat I've only owned diesels. It wouldn't surprise me if VW cut corners on the brakes on the diesels. This is good info to know though, because I hate the single piece setups and will definitely be upgrading if I ever get another mk2
Tyler

Reply #24September 02, 2012, 04:45:56 pm

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2012, 04:45:56 pm »
Other than my 2 85 Jettas and a 92 Passat I've only owned diesels. It wouldn't surprise me if VW cut corners on the brakes on the diesels. This is good info to know though, because I hate the single piece setups and will definitely be upgrading if I ever get another mk2

if it were me, i would just upgrade to the mk2 GLI/GTI brakes, or the mk3 brakes.. i believe they are pretty close to identical, if they arent..

i really dont like the stock 9.4" brakes that well. or single piece knuckles..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #25September 07, 2012, 07:30:10 am

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Re: Needed; Uprated front brake pads for a std mk3 td
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2012, 07:30:10 am »
A little clarification,

I am in the uk, i will get my profile to show this, would i be right in assuming that my Mk3 would have been built in Germany?

I have just nipped out to the car as i was starting to doubt myself..... i definitely have solid rotors. i will measure them over the weekend.  My car also has drums on the rear.  Overall the brakes are tiny and suffer massively from fade.

The way i see it i have two options
  • 1, slow down
  • 2, uprate the brakes

I prefer option 2 ;D  However i realise that this means that i need to know where i start from. Has anyone got a good link to Ekta as mine has given up working?

The brakes might have been ok for a slower/ more sedate driver when the car wasn't tweaked but they cannot keep up now.  I am also thinking about ducting cold air to the brakes as an interim measure.

I will report back when i have the measurement.  Thanks for all the comments so far.  Love this Forum ;D

 

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