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Reply #30May 24, 2012, 04:09:16 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2012, 04:09:16 pm »
I haven't put any oil in it yet as it seemed pretty full. Upon removing the fill plug it came gushing out so I quickly put it back on. This is the transfer that ate the speedometers gear. Ive replaced both plastic capped arms on the shift linkage. I have a new ball I can put in.
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Reply #31May 25, 2012, 07:50:20 am

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2012, 07:50:20 am »
How much play do you have in the clutch cable right now? Do you have that bushing in the clutch pedal?
Tyler

Reply #32May 25, 2012, 09:03:32 am

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2012, 09:03:32 am »
I would wonder if the ate up gear, GL-5 oil, and the relay ball couldn't all be coming into one big problem for you.

I spent a ton of money on the AGS of mine broke vw did for me. It still didn't shift that good. Put the missing linkz kit on it, and it got better, but still was way off from what it should have been even at the 50% reduction. When I put the relay ball kit in and backed it to stock throw it was a shorter shift than before with the 50% reduction and tight as a new mustang for the first month or two.

On the other hand, the reason it was down long enough was because the pp diaphram spring was 1/4 broke off and not letting the clutch disengage. It was the 400+ dollar brand new clutchnet setup that was less than 35,000 miles old. They fixed it for me no charge, but I still had to do all the work and the car was down.

Reply #33May 29, 2012, 07:08:07 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2012, 07:08:07 pm »
I never put gl5 oil in it. The bottle says, meets gl4 and gl5 specifications ?
I asked brokevw about the speedometer gear when it happened and he said it didn't matter. It was very sudden like ... stoped for diesel and when I went to leave I couldn't shift it into first. I can shift gears easily by matching rpm and I can shift with a lot of force on the stick except for first and reverse grinds into gear.
Ed
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Reply #34May 29, 2012, 07:09:20 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2012, 07:09:20 pm »
Cable is snug because I just put the manual one on a d I kept the rubber bushing. I don't think its clutch related. Its still hard to shift thru the gears with the engine not running. But definitely easier to do so.
Ed
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Reply #35May 29, 2012, 09:47:41 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2012, 09:47:41 pm »
Pop the linkage off the tranny and try and shift it through the gears by the lever on the tranny. If it's easy then you know the tranny isn't to blame. If you are brave and have a helper you could do it with the car running and the clutch pushed in.

Has bad motor mounts been suggested yet?
Tyler

Reply #36May 29, 2012, 10:19:55 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2012, 10:19:55 pm »



This is what happend to my 400.00 plus dollar clutchnet ^. It happened with around 30,000 miles. I have no idea why, but it would not let things shift well. I could push the clutch in no change, then rev the piss out of frustration and it would give a bit. It would RPM match and shift fine. It also shifted fine after I replaced it all :D

I hope better results for you sir.

Reply #37May 29, 2012, 10:23:02 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2012, 10:23:02 pm »
Great info guys. Really appreciate it. I have nexer changed the motor mounts... that could effect shifting Tyler?
Ed
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Reply #38May 30, 2012, 07:25:43 am

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2012, 07:25:43 am »
Could be mounts if they are really bad, I suppose.

Sort of a tangent, but is there an engine alignment procedure/spec on the Mk2 as there is on a Mk1?  I don't have a Mk2 Bentley....
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Reply #39May 30, 2012, 04:08:43 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2012, 04:08:43 pm »
I found out the previous owner (my brother) replaced the rear mount once with a used one. But that was >190,000km ago. I'll try popping off the linkage like Tyler suggested. If the linkage is off I see how that would make it hard to go through the gears but why would it grind into reverse? it never would grind before? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't understand fully how the insides all work.

Could mounts cause an imediate problem though? Like I said, it was like something broke and now something is wrong. It wasnt gradual.
Ed
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Reply #40May 30, 2012, 11:53:10 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2012, 11:53:10 pm »
The linkage is not the problem so I took the plug off the top of the shift linkage inside the transmission (where the arm goes in) and that carrier bearing was completely worn to the point where the ball was floating about inside. I got a used but free one (in excellent condition) and it fixed the hard shifting but with the car in the air i noticed that the wheels would spin when in gear with the clutch depressed.

The clutch isn't disengaging for some frustrating reason. This clutch was new in November and the car was driven at most once a week until april. There must be less than 15,000km on this clutch. I'll hopefully get the trans off now without killing my self and see if the place i bought the clutch from can do anything for me. I'm quite sure there is a 24 month warrenty on it or something. It wasn't cheap :( ($260)
I also flushed the trans and put in new gl4.

This is the furthest i can get the arm to travel. It goes all the way until it hits that thing that juts out of the tranny on the front
(the car is experiencing what i can only imagine is multiple oil leaks which is coating everything in oil which is why its all so dirty - happy Jeremy? I remember once you told me to splash some oil on my clean engine :P

This is the plug hole im talking about. It's also a great place to fill the trans from.

This is what was causing the hard shifting



The ball isn't supposed to come out...


On a side note, does anyone know how to remove the ball that the shifter sits in that is between the floor and the exhaust tunnel? (and how to get the stick out of the ball?)
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 12:27:07 am by Smokey Eddy »
Ed
Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #41May 31, 2012, 08:34:38 am

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2012, 08:34:38 am »
Contact brokevw. That arm is not supposed to go past 9:00 position.

The shifter relay ball in the tunnel is tough. I think with stock sized exhaust it could be done without dropping the exhaust, with my 3" I had to drop the exhaust. Then mark everything and take it loose at the pinch bolt, 4 bolts hold the shift tower, I pulled it out as one unit. Once out you see that there is a little spring roll pin or something holding the ball and spring on. Really self explanitory after that.

Reply #42May 31, 2012, 02:07:47 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2012, 02:07:47 pm »
lol, i do believe that the little detent assembly is supposed to also have a spring inside the cap holding some tension on the ball..
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Reply #43May 31, 2012, 04:38:59 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2012, 04:38:59 pm »
I had replaced the spring loaded ball thing at the time of this photo.
The clutch pedal is being pressed in this photo. The arm doesn't sit like that normally. Sits at about 8:59 otherwise :-)
Ed
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Reply #44May 31, 2012, 06:35:55 pm

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Re: more "tranny" issues for Ed
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2012, 06:35:55 pm »
If you pull up with your arm not the clutch pedal it shouldn't go past 9:00 position, If it does Brokevw says something inside is bad.

 

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