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April 05, 2012, 08:42:07 am

wdkingery

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connecting rod damn-age
« on: April 05, 2012, 08:42:07 am »
so, i got hastly, didn't clean my ring grooves well enough, hammered a piston in, couldn't get it out, and did this to the connecting rod:


can i sand it down and run it?
i'm guessing no.
i got another connecting rod from ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-diesel-Connecting-rod-rods-1-6-81-92-yr-vw-rabbit-dasher-jetta-golf-/130663816275?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6c2b9c53&vxp=mtr

will this one work?

can i re use the connecting rod bushing at the small end? (didn't realize it was in there)

also, check for sale thread  :'(

Reply #1April 05, 2012, 11:57:56 am

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
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If the piss-ton will not go up-down-up-down by hand, see above.
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Reply #2April 05, 2012, 01:18:48 pm

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If the piss-ton will not go up-down-up-down by hand, see above.
lol the obvious has been stated, now on to the questions..

Reply #3April 05, 2012, 03:43:38 pm

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 03:43:38 pm »
My biggest worry on that would be that the big end is out of round to some degree.. On another note you may want to check weights on your current set of rods and the replacement rod to make sure they're in the ballpark (I forget how much tolerance they say for these) of one another... AS far as the bushing, they rarely ever have issues and need replacing.. Give it a visual check and stuff a wrist pin in there and see how the fitment is...   Get your eagle eyes on that piston too.. Make sure none of the ring lands have cracked..
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 03:45:53 pm by maxfax »

Reply #4April 05, 2012, 05:58:18 pm

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 05:58:18 pm »
u gotta take that to a machine shop if u wanna re use, they might be able to resize it for you by shaving down the effed up and then reboring the hole.  but i dunno, its probably a paper weight now.  or a cool new shifter haha.
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Reply #5April 05, 2012, 06:01:34 pm

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 06:01:34 pm »
What does the bore look like?

Reply #6April 05, 2012, 06:54:33 pm

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2012, 06:54:33 pm »
Rule 23.6  Mechanics have wrenches and carpenters have hammers.  Do not cross train.

Reply #7April 05, 2012, 08:49:29 pm

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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 08:49:29 pm »
I wouldn't sweat it.  You will need to remove the metal that was deformed above the surface of the bore.  I wouldn't use sand paper because you will remove more than required and in the wrong spots.  I would use a fine sharp  round faced file and use a utility knife blade to check for high spots.

The bearing will distribute the load so the pits will be ok.  Make sure to plastigage it.
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Reply #8April 05, 2012, 09:13:38 pm

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 09:13:38 pm »
you know the rebuild thread for injectors, back when I was building engines, we would de glaze the main caps on a flat plate with like 1k grit sandpaper. could do the same thing, piece of glass and 1k grit paper with some wd40 on it, got a three stone cylinder hone? how about an inside mic or dial bore guage? lol  you could sand the flat surface an side surfaces of the rod, then plasti gauge it?

if there are a few nicks on the bearing surface you could clean them up too? Ive considered a basic cylinder hone to deglaze. even sand caps and deglaze to repair slightly stretched caps but have never tried it.

Reply #9April 06, 2012, 06:44:38 am

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 06:44:38 am »
I thought the damage was in bearing seat. now I see the damage on the rod/cap mating surface. I'd try the glass plate and sand paper.  You can dye the surface with a sharpie so you can see when you get to the good surface and stop.

Stress wise you should be fine that is a strong part of the rod.

othewise take it and the cap to a machine shop.
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Reply #10April 06, 2012, 07:13:45 am

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 07:13:45 am »
FWIW, this is what I consider a critical engine part and I wouldn't skimp personally. I would take it to a shop for no other reason than to have peace of mind that it was perfect. Might even have someon to fall back on if it fails, instead of standing there with a hole in your block thinking I shouldn't have done that.

Reply #11April 06, 2012, 07:49:45 am

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 07:49:45 am »
Hey OP here, was curious about the bushing in the skinny end of the rod. Have new rod, don't have new bushing. Can use old bushing?

Reply #12April 06, 2012, 08:06:19 am

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 08:06:19 am »
Probably not normally they are Pressed in but bushings are normally cheap? Like 8 bucks or less plus install

Reply #13April 06, 2012, 12:58:09 pm

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 12:58:09 pm »
I would just bring all four rods in to get them resized.  I did that for my rods because I had new ARP rod bolts installed, along with getting the small end re-bushed, cost was $25 for all four.

Reply #14April 06, 2012, 04:02:13 pm

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Re: connecting rod damn-age
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2012, 04:02:13 pm »
Ebay rod had bushing.. All good