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#15
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 09 Dec, 2011 21:19
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if it makes a difference:
im a 23 year old hard headed red-neck..
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#16
by
ORCoaster
on 09 Dec, 2011 21:25
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R.O.R. you are not that bad. You admit you are young and admit when you are wrong we all get flippant once in awhile.
since you asked I can only think that this is the reason for all the fuss.
yup, im pretty good about owning up to it when im wrong..
but oh boy, tell me im wrong, when i know for fact im right, thats a good way to set me off.
Ba bingo, here's the area in life you could change if you want to. I used to do the same but found as I continued to do it people distanced themselves from me unless they really needed an answer. The were just afraid that they would set me off. So I got older, and hence wiser, LOL. I just don't flare up at them like that anymore. I try to keep it cool and collected as that will convince them better than if I was railing on them It's up to you not them to maintain the temper and words.
It worked for me
theman53: thanks for the laugh, butthurt, first time on that one.
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#17
by
maxfax
on 09 Dec, 2011 21:36
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And if all else fails you insult them nicely.. AS in that way that they really don't know it till an hour or two later..
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#18
by
8v-of-fury
on 09 Dec, 2011 22:24
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I've never felt any pain from anything I've seen you write. I have also seen you write things that had high odds of rattling someone's cage and the backlash was predictable and expected. The only advice I'd give is that if you don't like the response you're getting from people then change your approach, but don't do it on my account.
RD
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#19
by
RadoTD
on 09 Dec, 2011 22:31
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I sometimes have a laugh at some things you say on here, although nothing you've ever posted has bothered me in the slightest.
You are clearly very knowledgeable; both inside the VW Diesel community and it seems in many other areas too. The cool thing is that so much of your knowledge is from what you've actually done... not just from what you've read or seen other people doing. I've never actually blown up any form of motor on anything yet. I do intend to fix that someday, but so far I haven't done it
I'm going to make an example of a possible situation, purely hypothetical.
Lets say you end up in a debate about EGT's melting a piston. Somewhere on this forum, you replied to a question of mine saying you figure you had your 1.5 at 1500deg or more for about a minute. That motor eventually seized up but fired right up once it cooled down.
Now say someone else as sure of their opinion was running their car hard at 1350-1400deg for a minute solid, then suddenly lost compression and upon tearing it apart, found that they melted a piston.
Now it's possible your 1.5 was a good batch of aluminum and maybe it had low compression or whatever that let it endure such torture. And maybe, the other engine had a worse bias than normal starving a cylinder or two of air, so that hole ran rich and melted a piston. Both of you know you're right, and you are. Both of you will think the other person is wrong, but they aren't necessarily.
I can't think of a real example on the forum, but I think it sometimes comes down to an issue like that. I for one have learned a lot from you and hope to learn more!
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#20
by
DieselBalz
on 09 Dec, 2011 23:14
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Maybe I just don't read enough, but this site is way chill. Even the late libby papa thread was a snooze fest compared to some of the *** I have seen go down on the intertubes (aka girl gamer plays with all of us, frequents our site, said gamer girl cheats on her boyfriend with another gamer we know, that melts and as retribution guy girl banged, posted pics of her naked from said affair, on our site, which had heavy traffic from the PSN site que insanity).
You are alright, ROR. You respond to posts whether they are new peoples like myself, or all the old timers. You have definitely got knowledge to share, and if people dont like how you share it, ef em. Its just the friggen internets. Thats whats so great about blocking people. Not worth your time fretting about what people think on the web.
Definitely not worth starting a whole thread about.
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#21
by
CRSMP5
on 10 Dec, 2011 00:48
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opinions are like arss holes.. everyone has one..

i cannot say ive seen any bad crap with ya..
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#22
by
Fredrikkk
on 10 Dec, 2011 10:09
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I think you are very knowledgeable, but you always outdo everyone if they have a situation. It seems like you've done absolutely everything,and it just kind of becomes old... You can come off as cocky.
But, you are very helpful and extremely smart
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#23
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 10 Dec, 2011 12:34
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i know this thread was not necessary, but i just wanted to make sure that its not ALL ME..
im aware i come off as abrasive, but if you knew me in day to day life, without the interwebz, then most of you would completely understand..
im extremely sarcastic, and i hate explaining myself more than once. i dont have sympathy for stupid people that do stupid things. i have sympathy for stupid people that are actually trying to learn, and do things the right way..
anyways, thank you all for the answers. none of what any of you said hurt my feelings. im not going to hold a grudge towards any of you that posted in this thread..
again, thank you for the constructive criticism.. everyones responses were read thoroughly, and taken into consideration..
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#24
by
BigVWman
on 10 Dec, 2011 16:24
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You are awful!Just kidding, We all can be dickish at times! You have some great info in alot of your posts and call it as you see it.It also seems to me you know when to stop. I for one don't know when to shut up and am guilty of dickish syndrome at times as well. It really seems like the whole forum took a mean turn for a few days anyway!
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#25
by
bajacalal
on 10 Dec, 2011 17:18
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It's true what people are saying, this is a great forum with a relatively small amount of bickering and the members here are generally very mature, open minded and helpful.
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#26
by
ORCoaster
on 10 Dec, 2011 18:48
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BigVWman: It really seems like the whole forum took a mean turn for a few days anyway!
In the back of my mind there is this wee thought that somewhere in population studies they have noted group behavior that is somewhat cyclic. May even be tied to the phase of the moon. I wonder if we all just clustered on that period of time. Might be fun to look at that group of days and compare to other forums and see if their stuff was equally abrasive or more so.
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#27
by
8v-of-fury
on 10 Dec, 2011 19:17
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And then it really all comes back to the internet.. if you don't like Kevin tell him to FO and be on your way.

Its what i would do.
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#28
by
burn_your_money
on 11 Dec, 2011 06:44
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but oh boy, tell me im wrong, when i know for fact im right, thats a good way to set me off.
I would say here is where your trouble comes from. What happens when you get 2 people in a conversation that
know they are right, but both have opposite views?
An example would be turbo size. Giles loves the punchiness of a small turbo, but I love the smooth power curve of a larger turbo. We are both "right" and could argue it until we are blue in the face (or beating each other with a crescent wrench?).
Anyways my point is that it is ok and even good that people can see the same situation differently. I mean, if everyone was like us the world would drive VW diesels, if everything was like the Civic nation, we'd all have Hondas. And lets be honest, that would be boring. We would have no one to make fun of.
You are best off saying the reasons you are right, not the reasons they are wrong. If the other person keeps playing the "I'm right game" just ignore them and for the most part people will realize where the issue is and your posts will still be creditable while there's will likely be ignored.
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#29
by
JessaBug
on 12 Dec, 2011 08:45
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I've never had any problems with what you say, or even how you say it. Especially over on the 'tex. There are many who just don't listen and its frustrating. I watch a lot in threads on the sidelines simply because I'm too frustrated to post, so I give you props for stepping up.
I had no idea you were only 23 though. You know too much about these old IDIs to be 23! Props to you for that as well.
I'm 24 btw. Only been tinkering on the IDI since '08. Hubby knows much more than I do for sure, but I try to take in what I can, especially on the forums.