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Reply #30November 14, 2011, 06:13:21 pm

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2011, 06:13:21 pm »
The cam sprocket is not all that strong, it's not steel but pot metal or aluminum? When you put a puller on it or pry on it or hammer on it at the o.d., there is a lot of leverage and the sprocket may not survive as you have found out. The punch and hammer through the hole hitting the sprocket rib is the way to go if you want to avoid possible damage.

variety is the spice of life so another method....

I've damaged a pulley by getting too enthusiastic with a particularly recalcitrant pulley taper so changed tact.

Slacken nut

I use a wide (4in) brick bolster chisel to act as a lever to apply a little force behind the pulley to lever it away from the engine then give the bolt head a sharp tap.

Maybe not ideal?  I'll try the punch through hole technique next time.

Reply #31November 14, 2011, 10:44:57 pm

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2011, 10:44:57 pm »
The cam sprockets are sintered iron or steel, not pot metal. Weak and brittle but great for making cheap parts that are better than castings but not as good or expensive as machined parts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering

Reply #32November 15, 2011, 09:05:46 am

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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2011, 09:05:46 am »
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I just do it the way the Bentley manual says to do it...

real men don't use a manual  ;)




well, not until we've lost our temper and broken some expensive bits first

Reply #33November 15, 2011, 09:09:05 am

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I just do it the way the Bentley manual says to do it...

real men don't use a manual  ;)




well, not until we've lost our temper and broken some expensive bits first


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Reply #34November 15, 2011, 01:17:31 pm

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2011, 01:17:31 pm »
Seems that I use my manual for corrective process.  In that I refer to it to figure out how come what I am doing is not working.  Then there is this light bulb moment and I go back to it once I figure what I was doing wrong.

So I'll raise one to the real men learning after the parts are broken and tempers have flared.  BTDT.  A Lot

Reply #35November 25, 2011, 09:50:31 pm

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2011, 09:50:31 pm »
The vanagon doesn't have a drift hole in the timing cover. Where on the sprocket does the drift touch?

Reply #36November 26, 2011, 08:48:45 am

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2011, 08:48:45 am »
Out on the edge where the belt rides.  I was trying to pull a hydro camshaft in the boneyard yesterday and I couldn't pop the blasted gear off.  I eventually just gave up because this one had a chipped timing slot, so it was really no better than the one I was going to replace anyway.  I never had any problem popping any of the one I had put on...
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Reply #37November 26, 2011, 07:09:56 pm

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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2011, 07:09:56 pm »
Preload tension with a screwdriver on the backside and then tapping the sprocket with hammer worked like a charm.

Reply #38November 26, 2011, 07:28:16 pm

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2011, 07:28:16 pm »
Preload tension with a screwdriver on the backside and then tapping the sprocket with hammer worked like a charm.

thats a good way to break the snout off the cam too. my grandpa has done it with a cam, and an injection pump..
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Reply #39November 26, 2011, 09:14:25 pm

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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2011, 09:14:25 pm »
I broke the snout of a cam by not preloading the sprockets opposite side and whacking the backside of the sprocket,.

Reply #40November 28, 2011, 06:20:26 am

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« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2011, 06:20:26 am »
holy *** guys. Only on vwdiesel.net would you find three pages on how to remove a CAM GEAR ::)

loosen bolt, hit with hammer.

Done!!!!

I agree with Toby, if you can't do this, put the tools down.

Reply #41November 28, 2011, 08:45:15 am

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2011, 08:45:15 am »
holy *** guys. Only on vwdiesel.net would you find three pages on how to remove a CAM GEAR ::)

loosen bolt, hit with hammer.

Done!!!!

I agree with Toby, if you can't do this, put the tools down.
To be fair some of the problems rest with current or PO's all but welding the pulley on with glues and obscene graunching up of the bolt.
It's only got to grip stronger than a snatched rubber timing belt, not a high tensile high powered motor cycle chain :o. Just do a good prep job, and finger tight will grip like a vice.
EDIT Ha ha, don't leave it at finger tight though ::)
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Reply #42November 28, 2011, 03:23:12 pm

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Re: How the hell do you get the camgear off???
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2011, 03:23:12 pm »
To be fair not all three pages are about how to remove the cam gear.  We digressed and bunny trailed big time on this one.  Maybe we need an Icon for that, more than two twists from topic and the icon pops up on the main page.

 

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