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November 06, 2011, 09:37:41 pm

steevz

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Need 1.6D Camshaft
« on: November 06, 2011, 09:37:41 pm »
I just broke my 1.6D camshaft tonight trying to get it out of the sprocket. My pullers arms were too short and broken a some of the round end piece. Need new one asap.




Reply #1November 06, 2011, 10:49:04 pm

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 10:49:04 pm »
where in BC  are you? i have one from a 91 1.6 td i may part with....

Reply #2November 06, 2011, 10:54:42 pm

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 10:54:42 pm »
do you need the cam shaft or the pully? or both?

Reply #3November 07, 2011, 12:43:03 am

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 12:43:03 am »
Pullers take a tremendous amount of force to unseat a taper. A mild amount of pressure and and a rap on the puller bolt is highly effective. In the case of a VW diesel cam you NEVER need a puller. Perhaps in the future you should wait until someone responds to your posts before you proceed. Getting the cam sprocket off takes literally half a second. Being ham handed gets expensive. How in gods name did you break the cam, BTW?

Reply #4November 09, 2011, 12:28:07 pm

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 12:28:07 pm »
Toby, you got a cam to sell or just think you haven't pissed on him enough in the other two threads?

toby and i both told him how to get it off THE RIGHT WAY. then he goes and breaks it. so, hes obviously great at following advise.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #5November 09, 2011, 12:35:48 pm

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 12:35:48 pm »
hell i had a cam to sell . he didnt reply lol ...... cam and pully..... i cant see how the cam broke....i can see the pully busting....oh well its all part of the learning curve lol we all do things different.... mainly when its something we have never done before.... a puller sure sounds and looks like thew right thing to use..... if you didnt know any better.... and a hammer seems so wrong... but it is the right tool for the job.... lol

Reply #6November 09, 2011, 02:14:14 pm

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 02:14:14 pm »
nah, i told him in a different thread, a while back, about backing the bolt out and hitting the back side of the pulley.

pullers DONT work good on tapered shafts. usually the piece you are trying to pull, deforms a TAD BIT, and it locks it on the shaft even tighter. ive broken a puller from a tapered shaft.

tie rod ends are my favorite. people always try and pound them out with the nut still on the threads, or just smack the threads with a hammer. my friends have tried for hours to get tie rod ends and ball joints before, and then i walk over to it, smack it hard, once, on the side of the piece, then they look at me like i have 2 heads.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #7November 09, 2011, 03:43:22 pm

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 03:43:22 pm »
Which one of you guys are going to go get the keys from this newbie?  I can't believe this multithreaded story.  Kind of a super Mr. Murphy come to visit.  Oh, no send him some bells.  for the u know whats.

Reply #8November 09, 2011, 05:13:51 pm

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 05:13:51 pm »
he,s not that bad... seen alot worse on the goldwing forum.....every one has a learning curve .... soon he will know no ones really BS,ing him...... and we all are here to help in our own way lol

Reply #9November 09, 2011, 09:36:06 pm

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 09:36:06 pm »
Learning curve, yep, I do it all the time.  Maybe if I could remember sh** I wouldn't always be learning.  But what fun would that be.  Most of my learning comes from my mistakes so I expect this gentleman to be learning big time on this one.  Including like you said, no BS just helpful folks trying to be, well helpful.

Reply #10November 10, 2011, 01:09:01 am

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 01:09:01 am »
It could always be worse..  About 20 years ago a guy moved into the area and opened an import shop.. He came here from Germany, he had a funny mustache, and his name is Klause.. IF that isn't enough to make to make you trust him with your German car he also has a white coat with ASE patches... 

A couple years ago when ULSD hit the stations, and everybody's pump started peeing I noticed that I started to get a couple cars with resealed pumps and new timing belts with tracking issues..  The cause was bent cam and/or IP sprockets.. I knew where they had the work done and being somewhat of a noob to the VW diesel world myself I thought that maybe this was something that could be easily done.

One day Klause came to visit me at my shop. He was driving his Audi, wearing his jacket with the ASE patch and sporting his funny mustache.. He got a lead that I had a bunch of VW parts about, and wondered of I had a junk head with a good front cam cap, a cam and sprocket..

Apparently he was removing sprockets with a big ole prybar! On this particular car he broke not only the cam, but the front cam cap on the head..

I've often wondered how he made out with that one...

Reply #11November 10, 2011, 02:11:55 pm

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 02:11:55 pm »
That's crazy!!!!! Seems like anybody could figure out that PRYING isn't gonna work too good.........

To get my IP pulley off I use a puller and after it's tight put a screw driver between the pulley and IP mount and give it a tap, doesn't take much.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #12November 11, 2011, 01:49:22 am

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 01:49:22 am »
Even easier is to give the big puller bolt a sharp rap. That is all I ever need.

Reply #13November 14, 2011, 11:25:38 pm

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 11:25:38 pm »
I found a cam locally. Thanks though guys. I tried the rapping on the pulley. The tapered part snapped off inside the pulley.

Reply #14November 15, 2011, 04:29:57 pm

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Re: Need 1.6D Camshaft
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 04:29:57 pm »
Now that is on there.  Welded?

 

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