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Reply #45November 18, 2011, 01:08:21 am

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2011, 01:08:21 am »
What does it look like with the nut off? That is the only way I can tell if it is in time or not. IIRC in time is when the woodruff key is approx. 10 o'clock.

What in the world are you talking about?

Reply #46November 18, 2011, 06:10:46 am

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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2011, 06:10:46 am »
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The IP I cannot tell what is going on in the pic.

Reply #47November 18, 2011, 09:52:50 am

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2011, 09:52:50 am »
Brillant deduction Watson.

Reply #48November 18, 2011, 11:35:57 am

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« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2011, 11:35:57 am »
I have a better idea. How about just telling him to get the tools and set the timing? Then it would probably run fine.

Reply #49November 18, 2011, 11:49:57 am

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2011, 11:49:57 am »
I have a better idea. How about just telling him to get the tools and set the timing? Then it would probably run fine.

thats what i been saying the WHOLE TIME!!!

how can you set the timing with NO TIMING TOOLS?

i know i need atleast a cam lock to set my timing. and a dial indicator to set it to anything besides by ear..

i use a thin wrench for my cam lock, and a socket for my pump lock.
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Reply #50November 18, 2011, 12:18:14 pm

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« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2011, 12:18:14 pm »
I have a camlock, used a 1' square with a little file to lock it completely. I have a socket for a pump lock, but my pump was no where near the lock when I locked the cam.

Reply #51November 18, 2011, 12:33:18 pm

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« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2011, 12:33:18 pm »
I have a camlock, used a 1' square with a little file to lock it completely. I have a socket for a pump lock, but my pump was no where near the lock when I locked the cam.

well, then thats your first problem. if your pump lock doesnt fit when the cam lock is in, then the engine IS NOT TIMED RIGHT. not even close..

i think you should start from scratch, timing wise..

like, crank and cam at TDC, and then set the pump to TCD also..

you are just guessing right now, as to where the timing is. im surprised it even runs still, to be totally honest..
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89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #52November 18, 2011, 12:51:18 pm

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« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2011, 12:51:18 pm »
MAKE SURE the woodruff key in place on the pump shaft, locking the pulley to the shaft!

im sure the key is still there.. its just been timed by someone that obviously has no idea what they are doing..

theres 3 marks that should atleast be really close to lining up.

the flywheel, it should be dead on TDC, and the cam should be locked in place.

the pump sprocket should have the timing mark pointing to the other mark on the pump bracket.

that should get your timing close enough to atleast make it run and adjust the timing..

(thats the reason adjusting the timing did nothing, because it was soo far out that adjusting it did nothing, im sure the fuel wasnt even close to being injected at the right time)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #53November 18, 2011, 12:52:29 pm

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« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2011, 12:52:29 pm »
MAKE SURE the woodruff key in place on the pump shaft, locking the pulley to the shaft!

another thing, the pump should be the only place in the timing setup that has a key. the cam does not have a key.

i have timed a 1.5D with a keyed cam, and sprocket, and even left the key in there. but it was a 1.5. im not even sure if the newer pieces have keyways..
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #54November 18, 2011, 01:12:12 pm

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« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2011, 01:12:12 pm »
I'm going to head over with my timing tools and give him a hand this afternoon... see what we can sort out!! :)
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Reply #55November 18, 2011, 01:13:59 pm

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« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2011, 01:13:59 pm »
I'm going to head over with my timing tools and give him a hand this afternoon... see what we can sort out!! :)

THANK YOU!!!
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #56November 18, 2011, 01:15:19 pm

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« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2011, 01:15:19 pm »
Agreed.

Reply #57November 18, 2011, 02:41:43 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2011, 02:41:43 pm »
WE OWE YA!

Reply #58November 18, 2011, 05:29:13 pm

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« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2011, 05:29:13 pm »
Wow!!!
I've been watching this thread since its inception and a real person is going over to this guys house and assisting with a possible fix.
You guys are amazing!

The world has hope.
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Reply #59November 18, 2011, 06:31:52 pm

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« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2011, 06:31:52 pm »
D'oh.  :-\
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