New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.

[steevz]

I hope so.. I'm going to try and has a bottle of diesel straight to the filter.. Anyone know of a good way to do this.. just to rule out the fuel system?

[vanbcguy]

You can get some vinyl tubing at Home Depot and use it to bottle feed - it won't stand up to diesel long term but it'll do fine for what you need here.

[ORCoaster]

When you timed it there would have been a mark on the top of the IP pulley that aligns with another mark on the bracket that holds the pump itself.  They should have been close when you had a keeper of some sort in the hole on the right side of the pulley. 

Check that?

[steevz]

I'm at work now. Going to check that tomorrow, just to rule that out too. Bentley said not to lock the pump if timing jumped a tooth.

[R.O.R-2.0]

I'm at work now. Going to check that tomorrow, just to rule that out too. Bentley said not to lock the pump if timing jumped a tooth.

i highly doubt timing jumped just because it ran out of fuel.

usually the only reason the timing jumps, is when the timing belt and tensioner needs replacing VERY BADLY.

[steevz]

I think it jumped a tooth. I'm not convinced it running out of fuel messed anything up. The timing  and tensioner are really bad.. and there was a lot of play in the belt between the cam and up before I did anything.

[R.O.R-2.0]

I think it jumped a tooth. I'm not convinced it running out of fuel messed anything up. The timing  and tensioner are really bad.. and there was a lot of play in the belt between the cam and up before I did anything.

wont be hard to tell, if you put the pump lock in, and the other marks are off, then it jumped time.

[ORCoaster]

Kind of what I was thinking. 

I just take the inlet line off the pump and put on a temporary line from a converted gear lube bottle that i have cut the bottom off of and put a hanger on the back.  That connects to the hood with an S hook and then I add line to the the return line so it just routes around.  Gives me about 20 oz of fuel and time to play with what ever.

Clear lines help with finding leaks on either side of the system. 

[steevz]

Great.. First thing tomorrow I'll turn the crank to tdc and check if the IP is out 180. If not, I'll rig up a fuel container/line and try to eliminate any pump/feeder issues.

Thanks guys.

[Toby]

Yeah, NEVER believe the PO. One more time: Never believe the PO. (They always have a reason to lie and often times they are stupid. And/or it is to their advantage to believe what some other lame-o told them was wrong.)

The "smoke" in the video looks like steam to me, with all that that implies. Is there pressure in the cooling system after it runs a bit?

The motor sounds like the timing is WAY off to me. Way advanced. Easy to do on a Vanagon.

You need to bite the bullet and and set the cam and IP timing before you F something up. Without that you are just shooting in the dark.

[steevz]

Well, I checked and the IP looked 180 degrees out.. don't ask me how..

So, I moved it 180 degrees and she fired up. Can hold an idle, WAY less smoke, more power. Now I just need to fine tune the IP timing, might still be a tooth or so out.. but running much better.

Here is a picture with the crank at TDC and how the pump sprocket was sitting.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o47/steevz/IMAG0196.jpg

[R.O.R-2.0]

OP needs a cam and pump lock to really time the thing right..

[steevz]

No, it's like 170ish I think.. it sits at 45 degree angle in the Vanagon

[steevz]

Here is how it's running now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSHr9eaiLvM

[theman53]

What does it look like with the nut off? That is the only way I can tell if it is in time or not. IIRC in time is when the woodruff key is approx. 10 o'clock. EDIT: If it is a vanagon I have no idea where to reference the woodruff key in relation to the rest of it.