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October 03, 2011, 09:56:58 pm

rwdriver

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2l engine swap?
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Hello all. this is my first post in the tdi section, because I just bought my first TDI.  It's a 2000 beetle, and the engine is seized. I am looking at engine options, and would like to know how difficult it would be to swap in a 2l TDI. are the mounts the same? is the engine wiring the same? is it even possible?

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Reply #1October 05, 2011, 04:58:43 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 04:58:43 pm »
Hello all. this is my first post in the tdi section, because I just bought my first TDI.  It's a 2000 beetle, and the engine is seized. I am looking at engine options, and would like to know how difficult it would be to swap in a 2l TDI. are the mounts the same? is the engine wiring the same? is it even possible?

thanks

like the new 2.0 16v TDIs?

LMFAO..

not even close to fitting without making everything custom..

good luck on that wiring..

the 1.9 TDI, and the 2.0 TDI are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #2October 05, 2011, 07:52:47 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 07:52:47 pm »
oh its easy, in fact it will bolt in! gearbox mates perfectly!

but wiring,
exhaust,
intake,
intercooler,
entire fuel system,
cluster,
immo system

ect.. are totally different.
81 caddy frankentd 02a, 99.9 tdi jetta, 00 golf

Reply #3October 05, 2011, 08:19:21 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 08:19:21 pm »
So basically a standard swap between platform generations? ;D
Tim
83 rabbit shell 92 cabby tdi conversion, 91 cabby aba conversion, 87 cabby,  87 gti,  01nb tdi new project,00 1.8t nb, 98 ranger,92 f150 flareside(its pink) 97 cabrio and a 00 cabrio!

Reply #4October 06, 2011, 03:21:27 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 03:21:27 pm »
oh its easy, in fact it will bolt in! gearbox mates perfectly!

but wiring,
exhaust,
intake,
intercooler,
entire fuel system,
cluster,
immo system

ect.. are totally different.

so, the easy part is really easy, and the hard part is really hard?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #5October 06, 2011, 04:10:28 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 04:10:28 pm »
Somebody needs to do it at some point! I'm sure there was a time when folks said the same thing about throwing that alh into mk1 or a bew into mk1 or even just an o2a in an mk1, now we do them all the time, well kinda anyway.  so doing similar things to a mk4 just seems like a natural progression for folks with more money than i! Although i do think VW has changed its engineering making some more difficult. It used to be cross platform/generation swaps etc were a great success because of how vw originally engineered the stuff. I mean when you think that a drivetrain from an early 99 jetta gasser would be a retrofit bolt in(not counting wiring) to a 75 rabbit that is really cool!
Tim
83 rabbit shell 92 cabby tdi conversion, 91 cabby aba conversion, 87 cabby,  87 gti,  01nb tdi new project,00 1.8t nb, 98 ranger,92 f150 flareside(its pink) 97 cabrio and a 00 cabrio!

Reply #6October 06, 2011, 09:26:07 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 09:26:07 pm »
ok, so I guess the 2l TDI is out of the question for me. thanks for the input. Next question, My goal is 160-180hp. What is the most cost effective way to achieve these numbers? (I'm open to engine swaps as long as I don't have to mess with rewiring)

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Reply #7October 06, 2011, 10:02:24 pm

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Re: 2l engine swap?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 10:02:24 pm »
I would just replace the ALH with another ALH. It's a very tunable engine with lots of aftermarket support. However, you will need to invest a fair amount of time and money to get 160+ hp from the 90 hp ALH.

To get over 160 hp on an ALH, you will need the following: Stage 5 tune, vnt 17/22 or bigger turbo, bigger injectors, stronger clutch/solid flywheel, front mount intercooler, larger turbo-back exhaust, boost/egt gauges.

You should probably go to tdiclub to do research on each on these components.
2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
2001 Golf TDI - Son's
1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

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Reply #8October 06, 2011, 10:26:41 pm

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 10:26:41 pm »
sounds good, will do! Now, I have just one more question. What's the best way to pull the engine? out the bottom or pull the front end off?  I have only ever pulled engines from mk1, 2 and 3's, and this beetle is quite different than any of those.

thanks
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