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Reply #15March 02, 2011, 12:25:37 pm

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Re: what is M-TDI?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 12:25:37 pm »
breaker points are not fun, but they dont ever leave you guessing either. points usually work, or dont work.. and if they dont work, you clean them and they work again. lol..

and yes, those vacuum controlled carbs of the late 80s, yea, f#!% that.. ive taken miles of vacuum lines off toyotas, hondas, mitsubishis, and the like..

they always run better with less vacuum lines..

anyone remember the 3 barrel carb that hondas used to use back in the day? and that big black box they had to control the carb? there musta been 60 vacuum lines coming out of that control box..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #16March 02, 2011, 12:32:22 pm

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Re: what is M-TDI?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 12:32:22 pm »
anyone remember the 3 barrel carb that hondas used to use back in the day? and that big black box they had to control the carb? there musta been 60 vacuum lines coming out of that control box..

I'm shuddering at the thought..  I had one..  And they needed most of the lines to run half decent..   When working, though, they did work rather well..

Reply #17March 03, 2011, 06:48:41 am

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Re: what is M-TDI?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 06:48:41 am »
As I build up cars in my head I think the MTDI would be great for a straight show car where people love less engine bay parts and wiring clutter. Having done a couple tdi swaps I don't think the wiring is too bad but it typically requires the swapper to learn to read wiring diagrams which seems to be above 90% of the VW world's abilities ::) :o


Reply #18March 03, 2011, 07:25:50 am

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2011, 07:25:50 am »
well, the car is a 2001 MR2 Spyder, and I was thinking of how I could avoid all of the CEL mess, so I would need the tdi to send sensory information to the ECU or use an tdi ecu and wiring harness instead.  I originally loved the idea of a completely non electronic car save the rad fans and fuel pump.  but I'm thinking more and more just going tdi, or MTDI I love the mech bosch pumps, mainly because I want to use a fully mechanical vnt turbo.
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"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #19March 03, 2011, 07:26:36 am

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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2011, 07:26:36 am »
dnahtasinoivilboeraweb
you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #20March 03, 2011, 10:37:37 am

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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2011, 10:37:37 am »
what of the prospects of getting one that has the VNT turbo (2000-2003 i think) and has the computer to control it.. possibility eh!

Reply #21March 03, 2011, 10:54:27 am

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Reply #22March 16, 2011, 09:41:51 am

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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2011, 09:41:51 am »
It has been a long time since I checked that thing "the faq".  I have been on the forums too long I think, have become too lax and lazy. :-[  well, M-TDI sounds like the ticket to make the most power since I can use a mech pump and send it off to Jedi Master Giles.  the only catch is........ now I have to buy a TDI engine "not easy to come by" "NOT CHEAP!"  god help me, i'm in too deep.  TDI would be better in some ways because computer controlling gives much more finite tuning, and I have a friend in Germany who may be able to get me a suitable engine ;) that may or may not be legally installed ;) and used with or without proper emissions equipment. ;)  I'm horribly torn now, to M-TDI? or to IDI?  High power to weight ratio and the "nobody has done that" factor are my initial  reasons for looking into it.  I still think that there is some juice to be squeezed out of the old orange of the IDI but the ease and uncomplication of the TDI sound so darn alluring.  It also doesn't help my descicion that I just made some deployment money from being here in Afghan.  All in all, this forum is bad for me, like vegas to a chronic gambler.  I think I'll just cut my losses and make 2 MR2's with both engines built to the teeth. HA! TAKE THAT!........  ;D :D :) :-\ :(  thanks again guys

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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #23March 16, 2011, 10:43:17 am

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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2011, 10:43:17 am »
I vote you to show me what an IDI is capable of. TDI can be your next one...they will be around longer anyhow, so build the IDI now while you still can. <begging and pleading voice if you can imagine, they need a text for that.

Reply #24March 16, 2011, 12:34:34 pm

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Re: what is M-TDI?
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2011, 12:34:34 pm »
IDI - capable of 200-250 hp

TDI - capable of 300+hp..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #25March 16, 2011, 02:56:20 pm

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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 02:56:20 pm »
I think numbers based on what you can get out of stock internals & still be daily drivable would be a better more real world discussion.  (not including clutch)

TDI e or m - larger turbo, IC & tune - 200hp & 300ftlb ??

AAZ IDI -  larger turbo, IC & tune - 150 & 220ftlb  ??

1.6 IDI - ??? similar to AAZ potential ??

Those are numbers off the top of my head, what does the collective think?
1991 Vanagon 1.9 mTDI

Reply #26March 17, 2011, 01:31:27 am

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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2011, 01:31:27 am »
Stock TDI should handle just a tune with no issues. Few guys over on the TDIclub running at least 200ft.lbs on stock internals.


The main limiting factor with the TDI's is the injectors. The only difference between the 90hp 1Z/AHU and the higher hp motors is the injectors. A set of .205 injectors in the same motor will increase power to like 120hp/185tq. A set of .216's will bump that again 135hp/210tq. All with stock tune, stock boost, stock everything. To be able to gain %50 hp and %35 tq with one single modification... incredible. Add a tune to that to make it boost sooner, allow more boost to be made for the extra fuel, and adjust timing! your making some power now.

Reply #27March 17, 2011, 05:52:58 am

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