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Reply #15June 28, 2011, 01:36:34 am

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2011, 01:36:34 am »
I'm just going by the vid and watching the speed-o movement.  I've had a few of both.  Turbo's nice if you have hills or altitude to deal with, otherwise, meh.  NA AAZ is my fav combo so far still.
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Reply #16June 28, 2011, 06:01:17 am

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 06:01:17 am »
My friend down the road has a 1.6 NA with TWO mods. Giles pump and an exhaust.

How about a video of me racing him in my turbo 1.6NA.

That would put to rest REAL quick if it's faster than an NA...especially one with a Giles pump. ;D

Reply #17June 28, 2011, 12:23:30 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2011, 12:23:30 pm »
My friend down the road has a 1.6 NA with TWO mods. Giles pump and an exhaust.

How about a video of me racing him in my turbo 1.6NA.

That would put to rest REAL quick if it's faster than an NA...especially one with a Giles pump. ;D

oh, its faster alright.. if your rabbit runs anything like mine, then its quick as hell. if i had a different trans, my car would be fast too. my old rabbit used to do ~120, maybe a tad more, with an AUG close ratio trans and a turbo 1.5D..

do you have the governator mod done yet? fuel screw cranked up any?

idk why your car doesnt feel fast, my car will torch both front tires off in 3rd gear..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #18June 28, 2011, 03:55:40 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2011, 03:55:40 pm »
It doesn't feel fast because when you drive a 20vT rabbit that makes 263whp/248ft/lbs...you are kinda jaded.

The more cars I ride in that are "fast"...aren't really that badass. Now I did ride in an 11 sec GTO the other day and that was fast.

Don't get me wrong...I <3 my turbo diesel but she ain't no speed demon. Yes it has the gov mod(AWESOME). Fuel screw is 1.5 turns. Anymore than that and it will hang. Need more boost and an intercooler.

Reply #19June 28, 2011, 03:57:50 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2011, 03:57:50 pm »
A member on here has a ALH TDI that puts out somewhere near 250ft.lbs.. I prefer my 1.6 n/a ;)

Reply #20June 28, 2011, 05:16:26 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2011, 05:16:26 pm »
Yeah....    I love these things, I've driven them for fifteen years now, I learned to drive in them, etc, etc.  But in the land of 300hp 4 door family sedans, they ain't fast.  You've about got to be talking way low 14's to be in the neighborhood these days as far as I'm concerned.  It's all about context though, I'm around "fast" cars all day at work.  I'd still rather drive my Caddy.


Speaking of which, and at the risk of pouring fuel on a fire, nobody EVER takes there hopped up VW D's to the drag strip and fesses up some numbers.
I have a suspicion why, but I'd like to see some figures if anyone has em.  :)
   
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Reply #21June 28, 2011, 05:33:09 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2011, 05:33:09 pm »
Speaking of which, and at the risk of pouring fuel on a fire, nobody EVER takes there hopped up VW D's to the drag strip and fesses up some numbers.
I have a suspicion why, but I'd like to see some figures if anyone has em.  :)
   

Well, with my old 0-60 time of 21s... I'm afraid to see what a 1/4 will be! lmao

Reply #22June 28, 2011, 05:42:34 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2011, 05:42:34 pm »
I learned to drive in an '82 Benz 240D with two bumper stickers:

"0-60 in five MILES"

and

"I may be slow, but I'm in FRONT of YOU!"

Reply #23June 28, 2011, 07:09:06 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2011, 07:09:06 pm »
I want a sticker for near my tail pipe with an arrow pointing to it and CANCER in big letters.  Being un-PC is a hobby. :)
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Reply #24June 28, 2011, 08:36:47 pm

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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2011, 08:36:47 pm »
My old 1.6 gasser went 21 in the 1/4 ;D

Reply #25June 28, 2011, 08:56:26 pm

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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2011, 08:56:26 pm »
Displacement being equal I don't think the early gassers were much stronger than the ole 1.6D 
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Reply #26June 29, 2011, 02:18:34 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2011, 02:18:34 pm »
Watching the OP's video has got me thinking. There are tons of conversations on here about safe EGT ranges. One of the concensus is that the high EGT's should never be sustained for a few seconds.

Now it seems to me that by that video that a sustained high temp like the ones we are fearful of is nere imossible as soon as he is off the gas or at cruising speed, the temps instantly plummet. Metal no matter what the melting point needs to be at that temp for a sustained amount of time. It doesn't seem to me like that is something that can be done unless you intentionally hold it at WOT. Granted I live somewhere where there is zero hill driving, but it just seems to me that with normal driving, you should never have to worry about melting anything.

Reply #27June 29, 2011, 02:34:44 pm

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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2011, 02:34:44 pm »
Balz, I agree with you. And not only that but let's looks at the ones who have put turbo's on the CR and ME motors with no piston squirters, sodium filled exhaust valves or the extra oil capacity and cooling. They have then been driven like hell and beat down, yet still continue to start in the cold and run just fine.

For aluminum to melt, it needs some high temps ( can't recall the temp right now). It also needs to be directly heated continuously for a sustained time.. Every intake stroke brings cool air in to the cylinder, and every individual stroke bathes the cylinder/piston in (cooler than combustion) cool oil. So when you see 1200F the metal isn't 1200F.. Its more than likely a few hundred degress less.. Unless you sustain 1200F for several minutes I don't thin you have anything to worry about.

Reply #28June 29, 2011, 04:02:13 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2011, 04:02:13 pm »
Watching the OP's video has got me thinking. There are tons of conversations on here about safe EGT ranges. One of the concensus is that the high EGT's should never be sustained for a few seconds.

Now it seems to me that by that video that a sustained high temp like the ones we are fearful of is nere imossible as soon as he is off the gas or at cruising speed, the temps instantly plummet. Metal no matter what the melting point needs to be at that temp for a sustained amount of time. It doesn't seem to me like that is something that can be done unless you intentionally hold it at WOT. Granted I live somewhere where there is zero hill driving, but it just seems to me that with normal driving, you should never have to worry about melting anything.

thats exactly it, you dont have to worry about it unless you are going up a hill, floor boarded, then it might get hot enough to damage some things..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #29June 29, 2011, 09:55:37 pm

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Re: Video of a converted 1.6 n/a to turbo showing the EGT in action.
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2011, 09:55:37 pm »
the thing is yeah it melts at 1200 or w/e  but at what point does it warp or expand too much
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