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May 15, 2011, 11:12:39 pm

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Caddy shells and mpg
« on: May 15, 2011, 11:12:39 pm »
Do shells have much impact on fuel mileage? I'm no engineer but I'd think the aerodynamics should be improved enough over the open truck bed to offset the +/-80lbs. The shell I have is an old gemtop, the roof is basically flush with the cab.

Reply #1May 16, 2011, 07:52:45 am

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Re: Caddy shells and mpg
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 07:52:45 am »
You tell us. Put that bad boy on there and run it for a month (or two) and compare. I've been thinking about making a tonneau for mine. Did you see the mythbusters episode about tailgates?

Reply #2May 16, 2011, 08:20:13 am

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Re: Caddy shells and mpg
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 08:20:13 am »
i think i would go with a tonneau for mpgs..

80 pounds on a caddy is alot when they only weigh 1800, and only have 60 hp. lol..
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Reply #3May 16, 2011, 10:51:41 am

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 10:51:41 am »
I dunno. I've never met anyone who got over 45 MPG out of a caddy. Yet, I've met many people who get 50+ out of a sedan.

Reply #4May 16, 2011, 10:54:35 am

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 10:54:35 am »
my grandpa gets 52 out of his caddy. so he says. 1.6 n/a with a GC 4 speed. he definitely drives it like a grandpa too.

he had the can-of-pee on there for a little while, then took it off, im thinking he left it off because of better fuel economy..
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #5May 16, 2011, 11:32:30 am

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 11:32:30 am »
I owned two 1981 VW pickups:
1) gas with NO topper and 4 speed trans (not any version of 3+E)
2) n/a diesel with Glasstite topper (about 4 inches above cab) with the FF or FO (whichever one had the 0.71 fifth) trans.

#1 never seemed to get above 24 mpg the whole time I owned it....but, who really cared on 76 cent gasoline!
#2 was driven in SD, all over Nebr., WY.,Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and north Texas. I don't really think I ever got above 42 mpg. Going into the wind was annoying torture. The 0.71 was just not that realistic with a topper like that.

I've ALWAYS been really skeptical of all these guys who report these super high mileage figures. ::) I think there is a lot of resistence in the pickup body. Sure, I suppose there were a few times I putt-putted on a back road with a 6-pack going real slow and got better......but, just how realistic was THAT......ooops. Sa-wee!!! (kids, do not try this at home.....)
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Reply #6May 16, 2011, 11:38:31 am

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Re: Caddy shells and mpg
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 11:38:31 am »
yea, my grandpas truck pretty much lives at loopin speed.. thats prolly the only reason he gets that good of economy.

i know my car only gets around 40 mpg (maybe a lil more now that i fixed my fuel leaks) with mixed driving.. small, narrow tires, and a light foot definitely help with fuel economy. and aluminum wheels.. holy crap.. big upgrade over the stock steelies in acceleration, so im sure they are nicer to your fuel econ too.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #7May 16, 2011, 11:00:04 pm

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 11:00:04 pm »
I usually pull 40-43 in the truck in mixed driving. Last I weighed it at the dump after dropping 1180lbs of concrete it was 2160 with a basically full tank and me, 135lbs fully dressed, in it. I filled my tank the same day I put the shell on so I'll do some experimentin' hey at least the shell isn't sitting in my sideyard anymore!
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Reply #8May 17, 2011, 04:12:23 pm

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 04:12:23 pm »
I actually used to get high 40's in my caddy.  Under pretty ideal conditions, flat terrain 90% highway at 55, minimal traffic, no A/C.  Sometimes 48-49.

Funny, I went to the dump last weekend too, and the scales read something like 2400 lbs with a full tank, an extra tire ( I was dumping) , a heavy toolbox (just came from upullit) and me @200 lbs.
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Reply #9May 17, 2011, 09:12:21 pm

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 09:12:21 pm »
I dunno. I've never met anyone who got over 45 MPG out of a caddy. Yet, I've met many people who get 50+ out of a sedan.

Nice to meet you! my name is nathan and my 81 caddy with a franken motor, aaz-k14 running 18psi, 2.5 straight exhaust, fmic, pump tuning on a stock pump HAS gotten 50mpg at 55-60mph, if I go 75mph, though I can still get 45. I actually got 45mpg out of a tank with a set of 15in corrado steel wheels (pretty heavy). All recorded with a gps.

But I drive it hard, I have never done an easy tank on it.

Oh, and myke_w believes I am over 100-110hp, so it scoots.
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Reply #10May 22, 2011, 04:42:59 pm

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2011, 04:42:59 pm »
My first VW diesel was a 1980 N/A pickup with a cap. Put 48k on it in 8 months of 7 roundtrips a month between Long Island and Wash. DC. Always did 70-75 on the interstate and my best was 48 mpg. Many times getting this I stayed a little close to the back of an 18 wheeler.
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Reply #11November 09, 2012, 09:48:48 pm

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 09:48:48 pm »
When I get the AAZ installed in the Caddy, I'll do some mileage checks. My brother gets 45-48 consistently with his 1.6 turbo Caddy and zero aerodynamic mods. I've been exploring a website called 'Ecomodder' that's all about the use of aerodynamics for getting high mileage. My plan was to get it installed, check mileage, and do some mods to see what's possible. I'm aiming for 80-90mpg with the tall gears & reserved highway speeds.

Reply #12November 10, 2012, 12:18:22 am

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2012, 12:18:22 am »
My best was 51-52, and I don't think I had the shell on.  I think tailgate down might be best.

Reply #13November 10, 2012, 05:01:04 am

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 05:01:04 am »
My caddy did ~50mpg when unloaded. It had a cap on the bed.

The better tail shapes taper to reduce eddys, but obviously that reduces cargo capacity.

As stated, Ecomodder has some members with custom caps that taper. http://news.cnet.com/2300-13833_3-6230378-8.html

Reply #14November 12, 2012, 01:14:32 am

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2012, 01:14:32 am »
I haven't spent nearly as much time on Ecomodder as I have here. It's obvious that aerodynamics plays a much bigger role in economy than what can be done with a motor. It's also obvious that in order to accomplish high mileage it's going to look real 'different'. Function is way more important than looks, to me.