Redneck takes an NA motor and slaps on a turbo.

[RabbitJockey]

also my odometer is lower than yours    its at 120k now tho haha

[vdubspeed]

how did you get the GTI tach to work?

[keaton]

how about a AWIC?

[vdubspeed]

AWIC. Have you ever installed one? Do you realize how much CRAP that adds and how EXPENSIVE a good AWIC setup is.

I have a BADASS AWIC setup on my 20V and it makes the AIC I have in my 16vT look like childs play.

AWIC = intercooler, cooling radiator, holding tank, water pump, relay for the pump, wiring, hose to get the water flowing etc. It's a nightmare and TOTALLY not what I want in this project.

Just for laughs and giggles...here's my AWIC setup in my 20V rabbit: Remember...the intercooler in this picture cost MORE than the ENTIRE turbo install on this diesel

pump in the back:

tank

radiator out front for the AWIC

and here you can see the AWIC in the bay


might as well throw in the video of it working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC8lFoZShmE


SO...as to keep with the theme of this car...budget turbo build...no intercooler will ever be thought of. VW didn't think it was prudent for their lowly 1.6td in the mk1/2...neither do I.

[vdubspeed]

cool.

[vdubspeed]

Well hot damn! I'm finished...for now...until the governor mod!

Anyway...took the now turbo diesel around the block and immediately noticed I could NOT blow black smoke. EGT's would get up to 1200 if I tried hard but 1000 was the norm under a load. No increase in power according to the butt dyno but definitely a ton of spooling.

I turned up the fuel screw 1/2 turn and it definitely got quicker but still no black smoke. EGTs went up slightly.

Picked up an oil leak but otherwise the car drives just as it did before except the badass spooling sound.

When I get back from vacation I plan to do the governor mod and continue playing with the little guy.

Overall...GREAT investment seeing as how I did it with less than $400.

[RabbitJockey]

maybe driving that 20v has squed your butt dyno from detecting a 10hp difference   good luck, perhaps with more fuel you will get good results with that small turbo.   i think that turbo should be a good match for a dd 1.6

[vdubspeed]

well last night I for a nice drive and I absolutely love the upgrade.

two things I've noticed.

1. If I FLOOR it I can get to 1400 degrees but I shift and it will drop instantly. I still have no black smoke though.

2. It's definitely faster. I took a turn I do everyday in second gear and punched it and it was amazing how much it accelerated compared to before.

I'm wondering if I should even do the governor mod since I can already melt the engine at it's current condition.

[lord_verminaard]

That's my problem with the N/A pump on my 1.6 w/turbo, I have it cranked to get enough fuel to make boost, but it smokes like crazy when not under boost and EGT's are high.  Plus my boost response is worse than a 3071 on a 1.8T.    Proper TD pump is the best way to go, not enough fuel to smoke when not under boost but plenty of enrichment once boost hits.  I had a TD pump on it for a couple of weeks until it started to leak so I had to put the NA one back on.

Brendan

[RabbitJockey]

i don't know that the governor mod will increase egts, it could tho because u will be getting more fuel up top, and you will be moving more air when u rev higher so there will be more back pressure

[vdubspeed]

That's my problem with the N/A pump on my 1.6 w/turbo, I have it cranked to get enough fuel to make boost, but it smokes like crazy when not under boost and EGT's are high.  Plus my boost response is worse than a 3071 on a 1.8T.    Proper TD pump is the best way to go, not enough fuel to smoke when not under boost but plenty of enrichment once boost hits.  I had a TD pump on it for a couple of weeks until it started to leak so I had to put the NA one back on.

Brendan

I have no smoke...EVER.

When it was NA I had black smoke while accelerating hard only.

Now it never smokes. Off or on boost but it runs great with more speed for sure. I'll definitely be doing the governor mod ASAP.

[R.O.R-2.0]

That's my problem with the N/A pump on my 1.6 w/turbo, I have it cranked to get enough fuel to make boost, but it smokes like crazy when not under boost and EGT's are high.  Plus my boost response is worse than a 3071 on a 1.8T.    Proper TD pump is the best way to go, not enough fuel to smoke when not under boost but plenty of enrichment once boost hits.  I had a TD pump on it for a couple of weeks until it started to leak so I had to put the NA one back on.

Brendan

I have no smoke...EVER.

When it was NA I had black smoke while accelerating hard only.

Now it never smokes. Off or on boost but it runs great with more speed for sure. I'll definitely be doing the governor mod ASAP.

governor mod will make it smoke more, but turning the throttle lever a couple splines, and screwing the fuel screw in about 3 more turns, then you will be able to pour coals like i do.. i got a n/a fuel pump with a VNT in front of it, and it smokes off boost, but i like it, really gets the message across to the tail gaters..

i can still not make ANY SMOKE on boost tho.. none at all. once my boost gauge comes up off the 0 peg, its smokeless.. (even with the tank of HIGH SULFUR DIESEL that im running right now..

[vdubspeed]

well I tried rotating the arms...no go.

I rotated the arm 1 click right and when she cranked the motor went IMMEDIATLEY into full throttle mode. Tried pulling the idle back but no go...got scared so I stopped.

I rotated it the other way and it started fine. Cranked up the fuel two turns to get a good idle. Thought it was good until I took it for a ride. Between gears it would run up and not come back down.

Gave up and went to stock arm setting, fuel screw in 1 turn, idle ALL the way down.

That seems to be the best right now but I still have no smoke. It's awesome though. SO much more peppy!!!

[vdubspeed]

I think I'm tracking now.

So the second time I rotated the lever I had the right orientation...just turned up the max fuel to much to increase the idle.

I'm still learning. I LOVE how tough this bastard is. Try giving 15psi to a gasser and not having the fuel PERFECT...good by engine!

[R.O.R-2.0]

i did like 2 splines.. and my idle screw takes care of my idle at all times. even when you screw the fuel screw in soo far that its making the RPMs hang..