Author Topic: blown head  (Read 4895 times)

Reply #15March 30, 2011, 11:42:00 pm

dieselsmoke

  • Guest
Re: blown head
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2011, 11:42:00 pm »
update

I got a new cylinder head ( had to reuse my camshaft and lifters)  made sure the piston wasnt damaged on the sides and cleaned up the top of the piston. I put it all back together and fired it up. For the first little bit it runs really rough and smokes like crazy. Once it warms up it runs fine. I checked the timing and it is set at .91 ( I have a giles performance pump and rebuilt injectors from him) I figured I would advance the timing to .97 since I have read that alot of people like to run the pumps at .95-1.0 but that didn't make a difference. Anyone have any ideas as to why it would run rough and smoke like crazy when cold but when it warms up it is fine? It almost seems like it has a miss in the engine until it warms up. The smoke looks like a whiteish grey i believe. Is it possible that the lifters need to settle in after being pulled and re-seated into the new head??

Reply #16March 31, 2011, 12:29:35 pm

jasonsansfleece

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 162
Re: blown head
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2011, 12:29:35 pm »
Sounds like an injector to me. Whiteish grey smoke sugests unburnt fuel.
Start it up cold, crack open each injection line/injector union in turn.
If one of the injectors is not working properly there will be no change in the way the motor is running when that union is cracked.
If cracking every union does not effect the running then you can at least rule out the injectors

Reply #17March 31, 2011, 12:45:53 pm

dieselsmoke

  • Guest
Re: blown head
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2011, 12:45:53 pm »
no. I did not pull the piston as just the top of the piston got a little banged up from the piece of the precup that fell ontop of it. I checked the walls and they are fine. This engine was rebuilt 10,000 km ago with new oversized pistons and rings.

I will try the injectors and see what happens. the injectors are new from giles with 10,000km on them. It just seems weird that it has a miss and smokes like crazy then as it warms up it goes away.

Reply #18March 31, 2011, 10:04:19 pm

dieselsmoke

  • Guest
Re: blown head
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2011, 10:04:19 pm »
i will check the injector this weekend. is there anything special I need to do to check them besides cracking the nut on the top of the injector while the car is running.

Reply #19March 31, 2011, 11:36:39 pm

Powered by Spearco

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1203
Re: blown head
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2011, 11:36:39 pm »
I'll test them for the $200 you ripped me off for!  >:(
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #20April 02, 2011, 04:01:16 pm

dieselsmoke

  • Guest
Re: blown head
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2011, 04:01:16 pm »
so i checked the injectors and found that when i cracked the fuel line to #4 it made no difference. i swapped injector 3 and 4 around to see if that would help and it made no difference. looks like the piston itself may have an issue. is there a vendor on here that sells oversized pistons for the aaz engine?

Reply #21April 02, 2011, 04:14:46 pm

R.O.R-2.0

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7335
  • Personal Text
    Pacific Northwest - Oregon - USA
Re: blown head
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2011, 04:14:46 pm »
so i checked the injectors and found that when i cracked the fuel line to #4 it made no difference. i swapped injector 3 and 4 around to see if that would help and it made no difference. looks like the piston itself may have an issue. is there a vendor on here that sells oversized pistons for the aaz engine?

or else it has a bent valve, or a badly blown head gasket..

those are the culprits i would be looking at, not pistons.

(might just be some bad karma tho)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #22April 02, 2011, 04:31:56 pm

dieselsmoke

  • Guest
Re: blown head
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2011, 04:31:56 pm »
i have a new head and head gasket I put on so it won't be that. I'll have to pull the head again. Shouldnt take as long now that I have already done it once.

Reply #23April 02, 2011, 09:53:42 pm

Powered by Spearco

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1203
Re: blown head
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2011, 09:53:42 pm »
Maybe if you didn't get HHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH before you work on it or make any deals on here, you'ld have it figured out the first time.

But seriously, its probably a bad transmission.  ::) ;D
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #24April 02, 2011, 09:57:59 pm

R.O.R-2.0

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7335
  • Personal Text
    Pacific Northwest - Oregon - USA
Re: blown head
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2011, 09:57:59 pm »
Maybe if you didn't get HHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH before you work on it or make any deals on here, you'ld have it figured out the first time.

But seriously, its probably a bad transmission.  ::) ;D

ROTFLMFAO!!!  ;D
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #25April 02, 2011, 10:19:12 pm

dieselsmoke

  • Guest
Re: blown head
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2011, 10:19:12 pm »
changed piston out and all seems good now. Thanks for all the help.

Reply #26April 02, 2011, 10:34:24 pm

Powered by Spearco

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1203
Re: blown head
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2011, 10:34:24 pm »
Wow, just over six hours sence your last post and you changed out the one bad piston and its fixed now!
Hows the compression ballance between the other cylinders, piston to cylider wall clearance, piston wrist pin clearance and such? Post up a video?
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #27April 03, 2011, 11:45:03 am

R.O.R-2.0

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7335
  • Personal Text
    Pacific Northwest - Oregon - USA
Re: blown head
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2011, 11:45:03 am »
well Josh, you successfully scared him away!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.