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Reply #15May 27, 2011, 08:28:09 pm

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Re: GM marine nozzles??
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2011, 08:28:09 pm »
mercedes have a prechamber, where vws have a swirl chamber, isn't this the reason they are not quite compatible, surely mercedes nozzles are proven to work, but i think they have been proven to not be better
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Reply #16May 28, 2011, 03:54:32 pm

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Re: GM marine nozzles??
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2011, 03:54:32 pm »
whats the difference between a pre-chamber, and a swirl chamber?
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Reply #17May 28, 2011, 06:16:46 pm

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Re: GM marine nozzles??
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2011, 06:16:46 pm »
Quote from: Wikipedia
Classification of indirect combustion chambers (prechambers)

Swirl chamber
It consists of a spherical chamber located in the cylinder head and separated from the engine cylinder by a tangential throat. About 50% of the air enters the swirl chamber during the compression stroke of the engine, producing a swirl. After combustion, the products return through the same throat to the main cylinder at much higher velocity. So more heat loss to walls of the passage takes place. This type of chamber finds application in engines in which fuel control and engine stability are more important than fuel economy. These are Ricardo chambers.

Precombustion chamber
This chamber is located at the cylinder head and is connected to the engine cylinder by small holes. It occupies 40% of the total cylinder volume. During the compression stroke, air from the main cylinder enters the precombustion chamber. At this moment, fuel is injected into the precombustion chamber and combustion begins. Pressure increases and the fuel droplets are forced through the small holes into the main cylinder, resulting in a very good mix of the fuel and air. The bulk of the combustion actually takes place in the main cylinder. This type of combustion chamber has multi-fuel capability because the temperature of the prechamber vaporizes the fuel before the main combustion event occurs.

Air cell chamber
The air cell is a small cylindrical chamber with a hole in one end. It is mounted more or less coaxially with the injector, said axis being parallel to the piston crown, with the injector firing across a small cavity which is open to the cylinder into the hole in the end of the air cell. The air cell is mounted so as to minimise thermal contact with the mass of the head. A pintle injector with a narrow spray pattern is used. At TDC the majority of the charge mass is contained in the cavity and air cell. When the injector fires the jet of fuel enters the air cell and ignites. This results in a jet of flame shooting back out of the air cell directly into the jet of fuel still issuing from the injector. The heat and turbulence give excellent fuel vaporisation and mixing properties. Also since the majority of the combustion takes place outside the air cell in the cavity, which communicates directly with the cylinder, there is less heat loss involved in transferring the burning charge into the cylinder. Air cell injection can be considered as a sort of half way stage between fully indirect and fully direct injection, gaining some of the efficiency advantages of direct injection while retaining the simplicity and ease of development of indirect injection. Air cell chambers are commonly named Lanova air chambers.

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Reply #18May 28, 2011, 07:36:52 pm

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Re: GM marine nozzles??
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2011, 07:36:52 pm »
I don't think Google got the swirl chamber air to dead space ratio quite right. Probably closer to 90% IMO. At least they recognise Ricardo's MkV though  ;D
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Reply #19May 29, 2011, 12:55:11 am

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Re: GM marine nozzles??
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2011, 12:55:11 am »
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This type of chamber finds application in engines in which fuel control and engine stability are more important than fuel economy. These are Ricardo chambers.
Sounds kind of opposite the 6.2 to me?

 

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