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March 01, 2011, 06:02:41 pm

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anyone know anything about this transmisssion, if the 5th can be used in a 020?


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Reply #1March 01, 2011, 06:13:18 pm

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 06:13:18 pm »
Doubt it, not the same trans at all, different internals, and gear stack. Not impossible, but i would have thought that if it was, we would have heard by now.
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Reply #2March 01, 2011, 06:15:49 pm

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 06:15:49 pm »
I think the most popular 5th swap is the .71 5th for the 020 trans.  If you really wanted to get down to it you could alter tire size and maybe the final drive some to get the same effect as a .68 5th.

Reply #3March 01, 2011, 07:48:19 pm

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 07:48:19 pm »
That extra .3 between .68 and .71 isn't as much as one would think.. It will probably drop your engine 200 rpms if that at cruising speeds.. Which isn't going to do diddly for the mileage, maybe a point and a half.

Just find a trans with the .75 or .71 5th, it will suffice.

Reply #4March 01, 2011, 08:56:43 pm

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 08:56:43 pm »
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Reply #5March 02, 2011, 10:29:21 am

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Reply #6March 02, 2011, 11:15:47 am

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 11:15:47 am »
isnt bildon motorsports kinda flaky?

i remember Owen and Eddy bought clutches, and both had problems with how long it took to get their items?
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Reply #7March 07, 2011, 12:24:04 am

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 12:24:04 am »
Don't quote me, but I've heard that the 5th gear from a Dodge Omni is an .68 and will fit on the VW 02O tranys.
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Reply #8March 07, 2011, 12:34:35 am

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 12:34:35 am »
I don't recall if the Omni/Horizon got the 020 trans, but they did only get 4 speeds with the VW 1.7 engine..

Reply #9March 07, 2011, 12:39:19 am

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 12:39:19 am »
Maybe that was it.

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Reply #10March 07, 2011, 12:45:27 am

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 12:45:27 am »
IIRC they had like a .88 4th and a 2.96 final drive..  I know it was fairly steep..  More I think about it they might have been some variety of 020 as I think they have the same clutch kit...

Reply #11March 07, 2011, 09:58:20 am

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 09:58:20 am »
yea the colts had a bunch of different ratios for the 1.7. I know the 020's have the same gear sets internally except for the final drive. .71 is easy to find in those boxes.

RE:Bildon, yes Eddy did get his clutch from them after much grief.
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Reply #12March 07, 2011, 10:48:44 am

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 10:48:44 am »
I don't recall if the Omni/Horizon got the 020 trans, but they did only get 4 speeds with the VW 1.7 engine..

i think they got a 4 speed trans, because ive seen one of the trannies, and it looks just like a VW 020, just with different axle flanges..

dunno anything about the gears tho.. never seen one up close, or held one, or torn one apart..
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Reply #13March 08, 2011, 11:19:04 am

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2011, 11:19:04 am »
I already have a tranny with .75 and would kill for the 400 rpms that a .68 would give.
My engine cruises with power to spare at any speed.
I usually drive around 125 kmph, and thats in the 3200 rpm range buzzin
.68 would put me at 2750, major difference
and in summer i run 17's with 205/40ZR17's and it gives about 5 klicks over the speedo on speed
and I still pull 800 k to a tank!

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Reply #14March 08, 2011, 12:35:06 pm

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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2011, 12:35:06 pm »
I already have a tranny with .75 and would kill for the 400 rpms that a .68 would give.
My engine cruises with power to spare at any speed.
I usually drive around 125 kmph, and thats in the 3200 rpm range buzzin
.68 would put me at 2750, major difference
and in summer i run 17's with 205/40ZR17's and it gives about 5 klicks over the speedo on speed
and I still pull 800 k to a tank!



there is no such 5th gear for a 020 transmixer tho..

you have a MUCH GREATER chance of seeing god, rather than getting anything higher than a .71 fifth gear for a VW 020..

fox/dasher transmissions are so much different from rabbit/jetta/golf transmissions.. theres no way the 5th gear swaps.. someone would have done it by now if it were possible..

only trannys with low LOW r&p gears (the fox box has 4.11:1 ratio :o) got the .68 fifth gear..
« Last Edit: March 09, 2011, 12:18:01 pm by R.O.R-2.0 »
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

 

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