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January 21, 2011, 08:22:20 pm

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can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« on: January 21, 2011, 08:22:20 pm »
yea, thats right, is it possible to put mk2 susp in a mk1 car?

i know theres not a chance its a bolt in affair, but if it aint too bad, i want to do it.

i got some stiff mk2 suspension, that would absolutely stick a mk1 to the road..


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Reply #1January 21, 2011, 10:14:30 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 10:14:30 pm »
its been done, make mounts to attach the mk2 subframe under the mk1 and bolt it all in with mk1 strut tops

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Reply #2January 22, 2011, 01:34:29 am

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 01:34:29 am »
There was a writeup on Vortex about this I remember reading years ago..

IIRC   The rear struts are too long, but the springs will work..  On the front you'll have to swap the top strut mount, the entire knuckle, and possibly the tie rods (or maybe just the tie rod ends)..  I think also if you don;t want to swap the knuckle, you can use a spacer to take up the slack where the strut mounts to the knuckle.. Some used  varied thicknesses of spacers on either side to change the caster angle..


Reply #3January 22, 2011, 11:33:36 am

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 11:33:36 am »
its been done, make mounts to attach the mk2 subframe under the mk1 and bolt it all in with mk1 strut tops

-Owen

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holy crap..

might as well cut the car off at the fenders and do a full mk2 nose swap.. lol.

im definitely not interested in putting a sub frame under my car.. not that interested atleast.

that would make it a NIGHTMARE to pull the engine.. idk how well they come out the top.

well, i guess you could use the mk2 engine mounts with a mk2 sub frame..
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #4February 01, 2011, 01:02:28 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 01:02:28 pm »
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Reply #5February 05, 2011, 12:59:09 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 12:59:09 pm »
yea, that wouldnt help me any..

i want to get away from mk1 suspension all together.. i hate how mk1s handle, and how they feel too much like a Cadillac..

my mk2s have all been very stiff, and glued to the road.. my GTI was much more fun to drive.. you can take 40 mph corners at 100mph, in the rabbit, you take that same corner at 30mph..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
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86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #6February 08, 2011, 06:29:45 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 06:29:45 pm »
i think the problem you are having has more to do with the chassis, mk1s are not as sturdy, do you have a lower k bar and upper strut bar?  mk1 also has a closer track width, what have your suspension setups been for a comparison?  my brother has a 1988 scirocco 16v with all euro sport bars, stock sway bars, and the stock 16v k bar, they thing handles, the shocks are boge turbo(kinda soft), and the springs are mk2 16v
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Reply #7February 08, 2011, 06:53:13 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 06:53:13 pm »
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Reply #8February 10, 2011, 02:01:35 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 02:01:35 pm »
its alright, this topic is kinda pointless now, i just bought another mk2 the other day.. so now i dont need to swap my nice mk2 suspension into a mk1, it can just go in my 86 golf..

$200 car, had been sitting 10 years, half tank of gas even.. put a battery in it, and she fired up..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #9February 10, 2011, 06:43:41 pm

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 06:43:41 pm »
i still wonder what 2 car sand what 2 suspensions u were comparing.  also stock us build rabbits had very very soft springs, but jettas and german built rabbits/sciroccos had much stiffer springs, i just pulled the springs off my jetta the other day, i should have used a spring compressor because they are that much stronger, but instead i stuck them in the snow, closed my eyes and pulled the trigger on the impact haha.  nothing flew too far
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Reply #10February 11, 2011, 11:41:29 am

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Re: can you put mk2 suspension in a mk1?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2011, 11:41:29 am »
well, the point of this thread was:

i was gonna see if it was at all possible to put a mk2 (suspension out of a 92 16v) into a mk1 some how?

i have a few spare mk1 rabbits, all of them have garbage suspension. i hate how easy it is to bottom out the struts. my mk2s never bottom out. only time i bottomed out my gti, i wrecked it.

basically take GTI suspension, and put it in a rabbit..

but not anymore.. im gonna take mk2 suspension, and put it in my mk2 :)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

 

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