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January 09, 2011, 12:33:36 am

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Possible Scirocco for TD project?
« on: January 09, 2011, 12:33:36 am »
I've seen this for sale for a while now, but still looks to be what would need to be for safe drag racing.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2145133921.html.

I have already went and looked at it once before when the eng. and trans were in it for $3000.
Its really cool with all the body pannels that clip on with Zus fasteners. Plus the seat, full cage, coil over suspension, fire supresion setup, pedals, dash and gauges.

No idea on the weight or any of the cage certifications, but its alot further along than the one I have now. Basiclly just a shell.
Its already been fluffed and buffed, just needs a my engine, trans., intercooler and dodads.  ;)

I'd like to hear any opinons. Yes opinons.  ;D
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Reply #1January 09, 2011, 12:36:07 am

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 12:36:07 am »
DAMN, good deal there if it is not hammered, and a decent certification on the cage.

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Reply #2January 09, 2011, 12:41:21 am

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 12:41:21 am »
Yeah, its a cool car.

I don't know alot about cage certifing, but I can look at the welds and hopefully it has an up to date sticker on it.

The whole front end unclips really quick, along with the rear quarters.

The last time I looked at it, it looked straight. Didn't looked like its been in a wreck.
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'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #3January 09, 2011, 01:17:44 am

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 01:17:44 am »
I drag race in NHRA pro and sportsman class and they don't require a roll bar untill 11.49. I put a 8-point cage in my car and since I don't run that fast They told me it didn't need to be certified. Been that way over 10 years now.

Reply #4January 09, 2011, 01:29:09 am

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 01:29:09 am »
Ok, thanks for the info on the cage.

The reason I like the full cage is that later the car will be used for other racing. Maybe Bonneville salt flats. Plus the wife wants it  :-[.
I can get a full bolt in or weld in cage from AutoPower, but this one has it already.

I don't think my car will reach those numbers either. I'll try like h3ll though.
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Reply #5January 09, 2011, 12:21:09 pm

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 12:21:09 pm »
DO IT JOSH!!!

every time i saw that car be re-posted, i kept thinking it needed a new owner, and a compound turbo diesel...
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #6January 09, 2011, 06:25:14 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 06:25:14 pm »
I hate to say it, but I think that thing needs either a 1.8T or a 2.0 16vT. As cool as the diesel is, a built turbo'd gasser will be the faster car

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #7January 13, 2011, 12:24:30 am

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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 12:24:30 am »
I went and took a look at the car. This thing is not a back yard do it your self car. Everything is built to the best it could.

This car was raced all around the PNW in the '90 and held track records for some time. The guy that is selling it was one of the crew that wrenched on it.

The car is basiclly a 3/4 tube chassis. I think the cage was last certified in  2003., but like someone said, in drag racing its not needed till 11.49. The suspension is all Bilstein coil overs with nitrogen and external pressure fittings. The springs are stiff as snit. 350 rear and 450 front  :o. Theres some kind of a NASCAR style front sway bar and rear sway bar is like 30mm.
Thers a complete Halon fire supresion setup. With two extra bottles.
Tilton twin brake master cylinders with a bias controll knob at the drivers side.
The front brake calipars are a twin feed line setup. Don't know much about that. But they are huge. Rear are disk and are from a MK3. The front spindles are also MK3, made to fit the MK1 coils.
The doors have been skined and are Zues fastened to the cage with stand offs to sit flush with body. The front body sheet metal pannels are also Zues fastened together and remove in one piece. Really nice feature. The car weighed 1850 with engine and trans so its still light enough to drag race with a diesel.
I'm going to take a look again this weekend and decide then.
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'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
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Reply #8January 13, 2011, 12:35:47 am

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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 12:35:47 am »
Even if I don't run a diesel, its still a great car for any racing.
I was hoping to race it at Bonneville salt flats with the diesel but the car class is way to compeditive.
So it will have to be for time only. Hopfully 130+MPH
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #9January 22, 2011, 12:26:33 am

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 12:26:33 am »
Well, I bought it. Here is some pics so far.

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'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #10January 22, 2011, 10:11:11 am

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 10:11:11 am »
T D I that thing :D
Sweet and amazing purchase!

Reply #11January 22, 2011, 11:04:45 am

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2011, 11:04:45 am »
so, when do i get to come look at all your sweet toys??

i need to pick your brain some day soon anyway..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #12January 22, 2011, 03:33:44 pm

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2011, 03:33:44 pm »
Boy-someone spent some serious money + time building that-what was it built for originally?
 The only nitpicks i have is the front sway bar seems like an afterthought + came off a bulldozer. It just doesnt seem the same build quality as the time someone put into things like the fuel cell cover.
 The rollcage seems (maybe just the angle of the pics) like they build the hoop over the driver-and then built a full cage around it-and missed on the right side. For drag racing, you could never put in enuff motor to go any faster than that much cage would be good for. For LSR racing, I see just a little bit they would want to fix if you were going over 150. But hey-its just metal-its a race car do whatever you need to-that the fun of it.  ;D
 I'd hillclimb the thing-with as much motor as you can bolt into the mounts--diesel or otherwise.
 Good find-you paid someone who was good at at building + engineering .05 an hour for their hard work-and got all the parts thrown in for free.  8)
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Reply #13January 22, 2011, 10:26:48 pm

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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2011, 10:26:48 pm »
Here is some info on the car.
The car was initially constructed by Jerry Slotkin and campaigned in the early days of the old NASPORT series. Slotkin sold the car to George Dennis who, along with his tech. Rick Bixby, raced the car quite successfully in Oregon Region SCCA and Conference races from the mid-1990's until the guy Dave I bought it from in 1997. The car had won Oregon Region SCCA GT4 championships and ICSCC championships. The car has had regional track records at Portland International Raceway, Spokane Park, Mission Raceway and Port Orford. In 1999 the car was converted from its 1.6LGT$ motor to a stepped-up 2.0L motor which I did not get. The car ran in SPU. It also champaigned in endurance events.

The top bar of the cage is as it needs to be. There is many certifications stickers stacked up on the bar.
Right now its going to be a drag racer but eventually it will go to Bonneville.

The front sway bar does look like its been there for quite some time as the fire wallhas been cut out to fit it. But couldof been an after thought.

I'll post more pics as it progresses.
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #14January 26, 2011, 12:10:45 am

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011, 12:10:45 am »
I removed some things such as the PWR. steering brackets and resivior, also some mounting tabs for other things that were not needed.

Put together a engine and trans for mock up and to check what was needed to be added as far as engine and trans mounts go.
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Yes the engine is a 2.0L 16V block but thats all I had at the shop that was empty.
I decided to build an engine mount on the back side of the block for the timming belt side like the MK2 mount. It gives me more room for the T belt and tensioner. The mount is a MK1 rear beam urethane bushing and sleeve.
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Still need to add some tubing to the back side of the mount so that the bolts don't pull it out of shape and do some finnal welding.
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

 

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