Author Topic: ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)SOLVED!!!!  (Read 24565 times)

October 25, 2010, 07:30:28 am

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ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)SOLVED!!!!
« on: October 25, 2010, 07:30:28 am »
So this morning because i'm a nice person, I waited for the guy that drives with me for 40 minutes before I left my place, So it was 7:40 when i left and I have a 75km drive and college starts at 8:30...I would be late so I booted it till i got there about 100mph the whole time...Not the car feels gutless and sluggish....

2001 VW JETTA TDI ALH with 423,000kms
pump was rebuilt 100,000kms ago
Timing and WP 10,000kms ago
« Last Edit: February 07, 2011, 07:26:07 pm by catlin_cava »


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1999.5 VW Jetta TDI Bosch .216mm injectors and Malone stage 2, soon 11mm pump and vnt 22(parked for the winter)
2010 VW Golf City 2.0L "Hers"

Reply #1October 25, 2010, 09:53:30 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 09:53:30 am »
Does the ECU have a safe mode, possibly from a bad coolant temp sensor or any other sensor?
Do you have a boost gauge?

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #2October 25, 2010, 10:09:43 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 10:09:43 am »
She still pulls hard in first and chirped in second, I did a 1 minute idle cooldown when I got to college, as far as I know all the. Sensors are good. No extra hauges
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2012 VW Golf 2.5 5speed Deep Black Pearl
1999.5 VW Jetta TDI Bosch .216mm injectors and Malone stage 2, soon 11mm pump and vnt 22(parked for the winter)
2010 VW Golf City 2.0L "Hers"

Reply #3October 25, 2010, 11:12:16 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 11:12:16 am »
hmm, interesting.. so where is it loosing power then??

if it pulls hard through first and has the torque to chirp second.. why wouldn't it pull through all the other gears?

I haven't a clue lol

Reply #4October 25, 2010, 11:18:31 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 11:18:31 am »
What about bad fuel? dirty filter? Clogged tank pickup? Or just the switch to winter Diesel maybe??

If you have a fuel restriction you won't notice it until you need real power (ie. 5th gear up a hill)

Reply #5October 25, 2010, 11:56:18 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 11:56:18 am »
Scan 'er for codes, son... most of the time the ECU has some clues. ;)
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Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #6October 26, 2010, 12:45:40 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 12:45:40 am »
I know that my MK4 TDI will go into limp mode if raced/reved to high if coolant temps are not up to a safe level. It throws on the check eng. light.
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
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Reply #7January 01, 2011, 07:49:58 pm

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 07:49:58 pm »
I think we have the same problem on our 03 TDi wagon, no guts after 3200 rpm, smells propane like, my guess is c/c, especially after 388k km
My cat has A.D.D :(

Reply #8January 01, 2011, 08:19:13 pm

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 08:19:13 pm »
Try running a good injector cleaner through the fuel tank or better yet, through the pump directly.

When were the injectors rebuilt? How about the intake manifold, is it clean or choked up. Also check the range of movement on the VNT linkage.

Do you have Vag Com to check your MAF readings?
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #9January 02, 2011, 06:25:58 pm

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2011, 06:25:58 pm »
13,000km Bump,

Car now Goes into LIMP MODE after extended periods at 85mph...4 hours at 85mph or 3000RPM the car goes into limp. I noticed it yesterday when I hit the first long hill in a Beautiful place in NS Called Cobiquid Pass(ALL HILLS FOR 70KMS) I felt the car having a hard time so I floored it(I was on cruise) and it had no power and lost alot goingup the hill. I manage to make it off the road and shut downa nd restated and it worked better for the rest of the trip.

on the way back i ran at 85MPH(140KPH) for 1.5 hours and she went into limp again, I shut down and restarted and it worked for the other 2 hours just fine at 120KPH.

Everytime i run the car hard the car gets gutless

Intake Manifold is Clean, New Airfilter, New Fuel Filter.....

I'm guess the MAF is Pooched but I know that it alone wont throw the car into limp mode, and All my Vacuum lines are connected and not damaged and all intake lines are connected firmly.....Please Help  :'(
Catlin

2012 VW Golf 2.5 5speed Deep Black Pearl
1999.5 VW Jetta TDI Bosch .216mm injectors and Malone stage 2, soon 11mm pump and vnt 22(parked for the winter)
2010 VW Golf City 2.0L "Hers"

Reply #10January 02, 2011, 06:55:33 pm

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2011, 06:55:33 pm »
Scan 'er for codes, son... most of the time the ECU has some clues. ;)

Limp mode has hundreds of causes... you're gonna need the codes or you're just gonna end up throwing parts at it.  ;)
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2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #11January 02, 2011, 07:05:13 pm

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2011, 07:05:13 pm »
I'm gonna vote for coked vanes.
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Reply #12January 02, 2011, 07:28:42 pm

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2011, 07:28:42 pm »
I just ordered a Vag Com Cable off Ebay, and my buddy has the software...Ebay + Booze = BAD ;D
Catlin

2012 VW Golf 2.5 5speed Deep Black Pearl
1999.5 VW Jetta TDI Bosch .216mm injectors and Malone stage 2, soon 11mm pump and vnt 22(parked for the winter)
2010 VW Golf City 2.0L "Hers"

Reply #13January 03, 2011, 12:56:05 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2011, 12:56:05 am »
A MAF will make it feel like LimpMode. But its weird how after a long drive then has lack of power.
Can you reach down a feel for movement at the VNT. Better yet, start it and dissconnect the vac. line from the solinoid and watch it move.
Vag Com will really help in diagnosising this issue. Look at measuring blocks, group number 1, and the last channel will be MAF readings.
Drive it and have your friend check them.
I feel these TDIs are dumb as far as runabillity goes. They don't care if theres a problem they just run. You have to know what your looking at.
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #14January 03, 2011, 06:04:54 am

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Re: ALH gutless after hard run(CAR NOW GOES INTO LIMP)
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2011, 06:04:54 am »
I'm guess my sister had the same issue before,hers was the MAF. But for me  the first time it happened I had floored it and there was a brief second then it felt like the car hit a wall, and the second time it did it was when I came off cruise... But when I first bough the car it did that once, I pulled out to pass someone(day 2 of owning) and it loss all power, I chaned the airfilter and it didn't do it again.

Catlin

2012 VW Golf 2.5 5speed Deep Black Pearl
1999.5 VW Jetta TDI Bosch .216mm injectors and Malone stage 2, soon 11mm pump and vnt 22(parked for the winter)
2010 VW Golf City 2.0L "Hers"

 

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