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Reply #30August 25, 2010, 10:01:31 pm

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2010, 10:01:31 pm »
valve seat is extra hard stainless steel,only for racing use.and lot of bigger thant orginal.If you use 39mm valve,you need 40 or 41mm seat.
egine give all most 150nm torgue at 1100 rpm,and 450-480nm 4500rpm.Redline is 6500rpm.That 1/4mile video drive only half of normal boost.


Reply #31August 26, 2010, 10:05:26 am

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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2010, 10:05:26 am »
any modifications in order? changes to the original aaz design?

Larger valves / runners are always welcome if there is room for them ;-)

Reply #32August 26, 2010, 10:13:51 am

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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2010, 10:13:51 am »
thermal expansion, the mold would have to be redone, couldn't use the same one.  XXX,XXX cost

Said another way, when you pour the liquid metal into a mold, as it cools it shrinks. The rate depends on the alloy. You have a large pour funnel and raisers on top of the mold that fill when you do the pour. As the metal shinks, it pulls metal in from the funnel and raisers. I don't know the difference between aluminum and steel, but tool steel we calulated 17% shrinkage. You should be able to find this on the web. It could be there is a steel alloy with a similar rate to the aluminum casting. Maybe a stainless ? :-D  $$$

Reply #33September 23, 2010, 03:28:41 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2010, 03:28:41 am »
staibnless head...... hmmmmmm........ now THAT would be sexy 8)
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #34September 24, 2010, 08:48:17 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2010, 08:48:17 am »
and way out of the realms of most of us. stainless would cost more than an arm and a leg.

i still wanna be able to give my VW throttle and shift after we get these new heads! so i will be needing all my limbs.

and when is the head going to be stronger than the block? im sure its not gonna take much to make the block the weak point.
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Reply #35October 02, 2010, 01:22:57 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2010, 01:22:57 am »
41/40 cast steel with some machining sound good?  I had a great machinist suggest it and I think it is definately in the realm of the doable
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #36October 02, 2010, 10:11:03 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2010, 10:11:03 am »
if the head is in the 500 dollar range, everyone will want one. if its 5000 dollars, nobody will want one..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #37October 02, 2010, 11:38:48 am

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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2010, 11:38:48 am »
still in for updates, thanks for keeping this dream alive KD  ;D

Reply #38October 02, 2010, 11:52:41 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2010, 11:52:41 am »
if the head is in the 500 dollar range, everyone will want one. if its 5000 dollars, nobody will want one..

No way dude...everyone will still want it at 5,000.00, they just won't buy it  8)  Well someone might, but not this guy

Reply #39October 02, 2010, 11:53:00 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2010, 11:53:00 am »
im really REALLY hoping these heads will be somewhat affordable. but the thing is, it would probably cost less for us to all buy TDI short blocks and machine up some TDI heads. then there is no need for pre cups and all that sort of machining.. crap, we could even not machine the heads for GPs for people in warmer climates. TDIs barely need GPs anyway.

ive been told the TDI head is much easier and cheaper to build.. and the engines are only capable of 3 or 400 hp or so :o
what are we waiting for?!?!?!

and good point Lucas.. i like your thinking.. everyone is going to be in the "just window shopping" boat if they cost too much..

i thought the whole point was to keep the heads as cheap as possible.. and every time we hear updates, they are sounding more and more expensive..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #40October 02, 2010, 02:22:21 pm

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2010, 02:22:21 pm »
currently still working an angle on this folks, I just need to find someone that is willing to hear me out and not laugh me out of their shop, or off the phone.
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #41October 03, 2010, 11:02:32 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2010, 11:02:32 am »
well, you do seem to come across as pretty crazy sometimes  ;D
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #42October 07, 2010, 10:06:28 pm

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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2010, 10:06:28 pm »
MARINE, CRAZY, synonymous I get that a lot actually, I consider it a compliment
dnahtasinoivilboeraweb
you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #43December 18, 2010, 09:11:40 pm

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« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2010, 09:11:40 pm »
ANy updates on this.  Even at $800 a pop, its still a good deal.. Whats a used one go for.. 3-400? and thats a soft one.

Reply #44December 19, 2010, 05:29:40 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2010, 05:29:40 am »
Kev is still gone over seas..

unless someone else wants to pick up the ball on this one and get it rolling again?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.