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July 07, 2010, 11:19:52 pm

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interest: 34/30 steel head
« on: July 07, 2010, 11:19:52 pm »
ok, so I will be negotiating with the chinese, on behalf of those here that want to run enought boost to kill a herd of elephants, much less an alumionum head/start a forge inside your engine ::)  I need numbers, no crap interest in said unobtanium, so that I can feed these numbers to my contacts in china, or possibly Vietnam "the latter has lower production costs per unit" I will probably pitt the two of them aginst each other to get a more competetive price, but will not accept junk, in other words we will get quality as quality can get from said countries.  We also need to iron out some details, this will be for an AAZ head the goal is 5-800 USD per unit @ or about 100 units if there is enough interest, we also need to figure out dimensions or any modifications that we as users would like to add to the final product, it would be adventageous of us to take hold of this golden opportunity to input good design ideas such as valve stem dia. valve dia. etc to build a somewhat "better" head we can send them all kinds of numbers but before we confuse the crap outta them and waste a crapload of R&D money on a fruitless venture I would like to have all of our own R&D ducks in a row so to speak.  We also need to decide whether or not the finishing work will be done here, or in location keeping in mind that it will likely be cheaper to get it done there rather than here because of shipping, union fees, taxes etc. you see where I'm going with this  I am going to move forward soon so I need to get as much participation from the forum and it's members as possible, so tell all your friends that you think will be interested.  we will also have to come up with a central shipping location in the states that the heads can come to and be processed out of after fees are paid of course, all money will probably be taken up front as soon as a price is negotiated so hold on to your checkbooks.  I will be double fisting it, I am the team captqain for team kai hei tai for the Military only battle of the builds so I can't do everything and being that I am running this as well as a myriad of other things in preparation of Deployment to Afghanistan I may die inevitably and someone will have to take up the bridle and replace me if this is ever going to be completed.

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Kevin
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"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #1July 08, 2010, 05:55:34 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2010, 05:55:34 am »
If you do get the print/pattern. I would like to take it to my buddy Rajiv. I sell to him and there is no union there :D I am confident that I can get the best USA price of anyone and it be of great quality. I send a ton of Amish customers there for there short run farm machinery parts and he does them very well. I just need the pattern and what steel we want.
BTW I would like a head, but the wife will cut pieces of me off in my sleep, unless it is cheaper :D

Reply #2July 08, 2010, 08:19:02 am

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2010, 08:19:02 am »
vietnam it is then. ;)  Hold on, I'll have to brush up on my vietnamese. :P  The great thing about being in the military is the diversity of folks here, there isn't only your training, there are volumes upopn volumes to be learned just from the folks around you.  Makes me wonder what some of the dolts who get out have really been doing their entire elistment. :-\
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #3July 08, 2010, 01:38:27 pm

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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 01:38:27 pm »
I really want to be in but I can't commit financially right now.  I want this to become reality so bad!

Reply #4July 08, 2010, 05:39:16 pm

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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 05:39:16 pm »
That price would be for the bare casting, right? ...I'm interested.
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Reply #5July 11, 2010, 07:33:34 am

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 07:33:34 am »
im in  :)
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Reply #6July 11, 2010, 03:27:51 pm

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 03:27:51 pm »
Too bad you couldn't have them make some audi 5000 TD steel heads; That would be wonderful.
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Reply #7July 11, 2010, 07:12:49 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 07:12:49 pm »
If there is enough interest it could certainly be done, as I am well aware of the flaws that those heads have.  From a proffessional sandpoint, the private sector, like the community that we have here has the best chance of making something like this come to fruition, as there isn't enough demand individually from one region to the next, instead, our community spans the globe giving us a huge advantage, all we need now is numbers, sheer multitudes, and a junk head for the audi 5000 td guys. ;)
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #8July 11, 2010, 07:24:00 pm

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 07:24:00 pm »
NintendoKD, you're a little bit nuts, but I like it!  :-*

If it can be kept in the $500 range, I'd be in for one.

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #9July 11, 2010, 07:39:53 pm

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 07:39:53 pm »
If it would be possible to keep a 5000 head in that price range I could send you a junk head right away. Let me know if there is enough interest, and send me a PM if there is!
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Reply #10July 11, 2010, 10:19:36 pm

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 10:19:36 pm »
whoretex it up bro, I already have interests there in multiple sections, I only have responses in the custom fabrication section, and it is just full of haters/non-believers.  I just gotta get the word out, I know there are a crap ton of folks that want these just don't know that I'm offering, call your friends.  There may even be interest in the gasser 8v circles.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4907266-CAD-MAPS-anyone-help-digitizing-an-old-IDI
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4947079-interest
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4947074-Interest-4340-aaz-head
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4947077-interest-4340-aaz-turbo-diesel-head
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #11July 11, 2010, 10:22:13 pm

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 10:22:13 pm »
NintendoKD, you're a little bit nuts, but I like it!  :-*

If it can be kept in the $500 range, I'd be in for one.

ME! NUTS!@#$??
No way, you folks are crazy, I'm likely the only sane one here 8)
I am fighting for something that we in the turbo IDI community should have had access to a LOOOOOONG time ago, and in plenty, and cheap......and....... well, when I think of something else I will likely insert it here.
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #12July 11, 2010, 10:28:05 pm

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Re: interest: 34/30 steel head
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2010, 10:28:05 pm »
any modifications in order? changes to the original aaz design?
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #13July 11, 2010, 10:37:49 pm

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010, 10:37:49 pm »
any modifications in order? changes to the original aaz design?

If it were up to me, it would get a moderate port, but otherwise nothing at all changed

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #14July 12, 2010, 01:27:18 am

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2010, 01:27:18 am »
I would be in all day long for one.

just a question, might it be worth contacting one of the aftermarket companies that already makes aluminum heads(topline?) and see if they could make a run of steel ones if we got enough interest?

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