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May 15, 2010, 01:32:26 pm

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Water pump choices. Flange height?
« on: May 15, 2010, 01:32:26 pm »
Sooooo.....

Getting a squeak and losing some coolant up front on the passenger side. So I'm looking for a new water pump.

Go into the parts place, and they come up with between four and six choices for a pump, depending on the exact year they punch in. You know, working on the vague theory that they are pretty much the same unit for a period of time. Maybe not.

Eight, or nine bolts. That I can crawl under, and count to check.

30mm or 40mm flange height. OK. ??? Measured where?

1990 Jetta TD. No air. What do I need to know to get the correct pump, besides this? I wish to avoid having to order in two or three pumps to get a match for sure. Also trying to avoid having to pull it off and wait a week for the parts to come in.

Metal impellers? Reading about teh plastic impellers falling apart does not make me all warm and fuzzy about them. What's a guy gotta do to get a metal impeller without buying a machine shop to make it?

Thanks for the help!

 Cheers
  Trev

Reply #1May 16, 2010, 10:19:11 am

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 10:19:11 am »
I'm not 100% sure of this but I think the 8 and 9 bolt difference doesn't matter.

30 or 40mm is the hub diameter that the pulley mounts to. Just take a ruler and measure yours. You don't need to be precise, 30 and 40mm are the only sizes.
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Reply #2May 23, 2010, 10:57:20 am

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 10:57:20 am »
Thanks Tyler!

I'll check my shaft diameter when I crawl under to count bolts.

If I got what the guy was saying correctly, the count matters, as I only get the front half of the pump, rather than the whole assembly.

Any bets on whether the replacement comes with metal or plastic impellers?

Any input, anyone?

Cheers
  Trev
« Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 11:03:16 am by trev »

Reply #3May 25, 2010, 09:07:45 am

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 09:07:45 am »
i would bet my left nut it takes a 30 mm hub pump. all my newer cars have small hub pumps, while all the old rabbits have 40mm hubs. i think they quit using the big hub in 82 or something like that. you can swap to a small hub or big hub by using the appropriate water pump pulley.

Reply #4May 25, 2010, 10:45:02 am

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 10:45:02 am »
What RoR said.  It almost has to be a 30mm, if its a 90.  Unless someone swapped it with an oldie.  Nah, that never happens....

Anyway, I think the cutoff was even earlier, like 1980....
'91 Jetta 1.6 NA, '82 Caddy 1.6NA, '81 Cabriolet,  4 Mercedes OM616/617s , 2 Triumphs and a Citroen DS19 in a pear tree.

Reply #5May 26, 2010, 08:49:02 am

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 08:49:02 am »
yea, im not sure of exact date, but all my diesels have large hubs (cause there old as crap) and all my gassers have small hubs (except my 1980 gas rabbit).

Reply #6May 26, 2010, 03:35:52 pm

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2010, 03:35:52 pm »
The 9 bolt pump works on the 8 bolt housing. I have done it. Filled the 9th hole with silicone just in case, but had no problems.

Reply #7May 28, 2010, 04:20:38 pm

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 04:20:38 pm »
Awesome info! Thanks Y'all!  :D

Been putting this off for too long. Gotta get on it!
No idea why they would have so many choices for pumps in the parts book under that year/model. Oh well.

Cheers
 Trev

Reply #8June 13, 2010, 04:37:55 pm

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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 04:37:55 pm »
Hey all!

Thought I'd pop a note in here and thank you for the good advice.

9 Hole, 30 mm flange it was.

Changed it out last weekend and have been running without issue since.

Cheers
  Trev

Reply #9June 13, 2010, 08:20:20 pm

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Re: Water pump choices. Flange height?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2010, 08:20:20 pm »
Glad to hear. Thanks for the update.
Tyler