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April 29, 2010, 10:29:17 pm

8v-of-fury

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1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« on: April 29, 2010, 10:29:17 pm »
Have never really had any time on TDI stuff, but I wish to learn!

the 1997, did it come with a TDI engine? its not just an IDI 1.9? is it a mechanical pump?

Would it be hard to use for a swap? in terms of sensors and what not?

thanks guys.
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Reply #1April 29, 2010, 10:46:06 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 10:46:06 pm »
I'm pretty sure the first year of TDIs in jettas was 1998. Personally  I would have zero hesitation doing a swap with one [ like into my transporter ] if i could get a complete donor car. I think the worse thing is the throttle pedal, but no biggy.
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Reply #2April 29, 2010, 10:49:10 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 10:49:10 pm »
I want to put a TDI or at least a 1.9 IDI in to my mk1 Jetta.

I think it will for sure, even at stock settings.. be KILLER.

Reply #3April 29, 2010, 11:06:41 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 11:06:41 pm »
I think Passats had TDIs in 97 but Jettas were 98. MK3 Golfs never got the TDI engine

It is the easiest engine to use (1Z/AHU) because all the mk1 mounts will bolt up to the engine. If you use a ALH (mk4) engine you need custom mounts.
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Reply #4April 29, 2010, 11:08:07 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 11:08:07 pm »
'97 was the first year for TDI Jetta's and Golf's. That was the AHU engine. 1996 was the first year of the TDI. It was in the Passat and was the 1Z engine. My plan is to put an AAZ in a Rabbit. I like the simpleness and affordability of parts with the IDI engine.

I got the model info from the worldpac database.
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2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
2001 Golf TDI - Son's
1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

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Reply #5April 29, 2010, 11:09:30 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2010, 11:09:30 pm »
Ok so any pre-97 jetta, or any mk3 golf claiming TDI is really just a 1.9 IDI?

I don't know which would be better route to go. a good IDI? or a good TDI?

Reply #6April 29, 2010, 11:10:20 pm

8v-of-fury

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 11:10:20 pm »
Jetta tdi's were AHU and Passats were 1Z... why the difference? what was different about them?

Reply #7April 29, 2010, 11:29:16 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 11:29:16 pm »
I think the 1Z was only around for one year. It was the pilot tdi engine. After that year, they went to the AHU for all the tdi models.
2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
2001 Golf TDI - Son's
1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

"ONCE YOU GO CLACK, YOU NEVER GO BACK"

Reply #8April 29, 2010, 11:30:45 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 11:30:45 pm »
I've owned a 97 AAZ Jetta. Maybe it's another one of VWs famous half way year changes.
Tyler

Reply #9May 08, 2010, 12:18:39 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2010, 12:18:39 pm »
The Jetta did come with a TDI and IDI in 97.The passat came with the TDI in 96.The golf got the tdi in 99-2000 and the beetle got it in 98.

The ALH tdi block still has the same motor mounting holes as the earlier engines.No custom mounts needed it bolts right in.
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Reply #10May 08, 2010, 09:38:12 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2010, 09:38:12 pm »
the ALH shares the older AAZ and ME/MF  block? Score! So now I gotta find me an ALH ;) when did the switch from ALH to the next one?

Reply #11May 09, 2010, 12:44:01 am

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 12:44:01 am »
The Jetta did come with a TDI and IDI in 97.The passat came with the TDI in 96.The golf got the tdi in 99-2000 and the beetle got it in 98.

The ALH tdi block still has the same motor mounting holes as the earlier engines.No custom mounts needed it bolts right in.

The VNT turbo will likely interfere with the rear mount, IIRC.


Reply #12May 09, 2010, 12:50:30 am

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2010, 12:50:30 am »
the ALH shares the older AAZ and ME/MF  block? Score! So now I gotta find me an ALH ;) when did the switch from ALH to the next one?

ALH was the first Mk4 tdi engine. In 2004 they switched to the BEW engine (PD).
2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
2001 Golf TDI - Son's
1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

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Reply #13May 09, 2010, 03:20:14 am

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2010, 03:20:14 am »
There must be different model series in the US/Canada compared to the rest of the world. Jetta YM 93-96 (called Vento) was 1Z TDI and YM 96-98 was AHU/AFN TDI. Exactly the same setup as Passat (and Golf).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Jetta
Jetta III is called Vento
Jetta IV is called Bora
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Jetta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Vento
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Vento

Reply #14May 09, 2010, 02:51:09 pm

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Re: 1997 Jetta TDI
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2010, 02:51:09 pm »
The Jetta did come with a TDI and IDI in 97.The passat came with the TDI in 96.The golf got the tdi in 99-2000 and the beetle got it in 98.

The ALH tdi block still has the same motor mounting holes as the earlier engines.No custom mounts needed it bolts right in.

The VNT turbo will likely interfere with the rear mount, IIRC.





Correct,I only suggested that the ALH block would bolt in.I have an ALH block in my 94 golf.

I have only put AHU's in older cars but I'm thinking that its mabye not much more work to put a drive by wire ALH in.The ALH turbo would be very close to the right rear mount but would it just clear? Or could it be modified to clear? 








 

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