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Reply #15May 07, 2010, 04:12:33 am

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2010, 04:12:33 am »
 :) very nice installation :)  Whats the air filter box ?     is the coil getting a signal from a crank sensor ?   

Reply #16May 07, 2010, 09:12:07 am

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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2010, 09:12:07 am »
The air filter box is from the original motor, 22re.  I put an air restriction meter on it from a ford diesel and I'm constantly setting it off.  I put a k&n air filter in it but it still doesn't flow enough.  I do like how quiet it is though.  I don't  hear any intake noise really.  I would like something quiet but flows more air ideally.  Maybe a tdi airbox or possibly one from a toyota v6.

I did add a crank sensor to it.  It's a pickup off of a small engine.  It actually fit perfectly in a slot on the timing belt cover beside the crank pulley on the passenger side of the engine.  I ground down a small lip on the back side of the harmonic and left two tabs 180 degrees apart.  The tach works perfectly with no bounce at all.  I'll take a pic if I get a chance. 

No clutch yet.  I thought I would have it by now.  Oh well. :-\  I can't wait to get this thing back on the road!
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Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #17May 07, 2010, 09:35:33 pm

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2010, 09:35:33 pm »
Clutch showed up today!  but it's not the one I wanted.  The company I ordered the clutch from offers two choices, a heavyduty clutch with a 1200 lb pressure plate or a super heavyduty with a 1600 lb pressure plate.  I wanted the super model but ended up with the 1200 lb pressure plate.  Stock is 900 lb.

After some thought I've decided to try the clutch I received for a couple of reasons.  First of all, it's here and I want to drive my truck asap!  I also think this clutch works better for the "daily driver".  The better half likes to use the truck as well so a lighter pedal feel might be in order anyway.  We'll see what happens this weekend.  If this clutch can hold the power I'll be a very happy camper.  If it doesn't, there is still a stronger clutch out there. ;)
Toyota truck 4x4 with Mtdi, M-vnt gt1749va, 11mm pump, fmic, smog .216 nozzles.  Sold!
Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #18May 08, 2010, 07:18:33 pm

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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2010, 07:18:33 pm »
I installed the new clutch today.  The old one still looked pretty good.  Hardly any signs of wear.  It just couldn't hold the power.  I removed the flywheel just to make sure my rear main seal isn't leaking and I also took some sandpaper to the flywheel clutch surface.  The flywheel is still in great shape with no heat marks or imperfections.  Everything was degreased, installed and reassembled. 

Time for the test drive.  Everything felt pretty good at first, excellent pedal feel with just a little more effert than the stock clutch.  Once the engine was warmed up I started putting the power down and sure enough, this brand new heavyduty clutch cannot hold the power either! :o  I am amazed at how much more power this truck is making now.  I could back the power off and run this clutch but I won't.  I have to try the super heavyduty clutch.  If the next clutch doesn't hold, which I highly doubt, I will back off the power slightly.
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Reply #19May 18, 2010, 06:30:53 pm

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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2010, 06:30:53 pm »
ive just bort a hilux with seazed engine, how did you get the engine to mate up to the gear box? is it AUTO?

i would love to do this convo, how how how did you do this? was it hard?


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Reply #20May 18, 2010, 10:26:55 pm

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2010, 10:26:55 pm »
ive just bort a hilux with seazed engine, how did you get the engine to mate up to the gear box? is it AUTO?

i would love to do this convo, how how how did you do this? was it hard?
adapter plate, redrill the fly wheel/backing plate , and lots more not a 2 minnit job
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Reply #21May 18, 2010, 10:51:24 pm

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2010, 10:51:24 pm »
I don't fully comprehend the tranny adapter plate but is it possible that the flywheel is too far from the pressure plate and it is not able to fully clamp down?
Tyler

Reply #22May 18, 2010, 11:28:55 pm

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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2010, 11:28:55 pm »
Hey Tyler,  The pressure plate is bolted to the flywheel and is basically the stock toyota setup. 

I bought the adapter plate and flywheel from acme adapters.  The flywheel they give you is for a toyota pickup.  They do two minor mods; first they bore out the center of the flywheel to fit on the vw crank.  New holes are also drilled to bolt it up to the vw crank.  The last thing they give you is a oillite bushing that fits into the vw crank for your pilot bearing.

I have been driving it lately with the clutch I installed a couple weeks ago and it is starting to hold a little better.  But it is still slipping a little under heavy loads.  This motor is just making huge torque now compared to the k14 turbo it had before.  I had the back end break loose on me in a corner in third gear just the other day and I can spin the tires on a straight stretch in second just by flooring it.  The new cluch should be here tomorrow or Thursday.   
Toyota truck 4x4 with Mtdi, M-vnt gt1749va, 11mm pump, fmic, smog .216 nozzles.  Sold!
Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #23May 19, 2010, 07:28:28 am

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 07:28:28 am »
I have an older 1.9TD hooked up to a Toyota tranny in a sidekick.
I've had great luck with the HD clutch from crappy tire.
The stock pressure plate wasn't enough for the torque.

Can I ask where and how much you VNT 17 was?
I also am running a K14 currently. Started with a K03.
The power band is just to short .
What RPM is it at when boost hits 20psi?
What's your max boost you currently run?

Reply #24May 19, 2010, 08:22:16 am

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 08:22:16 am »
ive just bort a hilux with seazed engine, how did you get the engine to mate up to the gear box? is it AUTO?

i would love to do this convo, how how how did you do this? was it hard?

Good tread for it here.
http://yotatech.com/f162/vw-diesel-build-up-135203/

I made two adaptor plates myself. I have a AAZ to a toyota trans. There is some missing info, in the above link. I have it all incase someone wanted to make there own adaptor (all adaptor prints, pilot bushing print, and flywheel). My adaptor plate also goes all the way to the bottom of the toyota bell for added beef. After making it all, and seeing how easy it is to do I wouldn't spend that much on a kit. But I also have access to machine shops.
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Reply #25May 19, 2010, 09:32:10 am

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2010, 09:32:10 am »
My stock clutch was fine when I had the k14, even at 18 psi.  For the new turbo I placed an add here and tdiclub.com and had responses in less than a day.  I had one guy respond from Ontario who had two of them in mint shape.  I payed 400ca plus shipping which I thought was fair. 
-20 psi of boost comes in at 2000 rpm.
-23 psi is max at wot.
My boost while cruising has dropped as well.  I'm at about 2-3 psi cruising on level ground at 90-100km.  As soon as I hit an incline boost starts climbing to about 10 psi.

When I bought my adapter plate kit I wasn't aware of guys making their own.  I was happy with the price I paid since I don't have access to a machine shop capable of building these parts accurately.  With shipping, tax, it cost me 695 ca.
Toyota truck 4x4 with Mtdi, M-vnt gt1749va, 11mm pump, fmic, smog .216 nozzles.  Sold!
Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #26May 22, 2010, 09:41:56 pm

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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2010, 09:41:56 pm »
Well, the new super heavyduty clutch got installed today.  This one holds the power with ease.  The pedal feel is stiffer and grabs fairly low in the pedal travel.  The clutch I took out felt nicer than this one but I guess there is always a comprimise when increasing power levels.  Peak torque is between 2000-2500 rpm.  I wonder what a ceramic disc would feel like with the heavyduty pressure plate? 
Toyota truck 4x4 with Mtdi, M-vnt gt1749va, 11mm pump, fmic, smog .216 nozzles.  Sold!
Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #27May 26, 2010, 10:33:14 pm

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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2010, 10:33:14 pm »
Glad to hear you found a clutch that works. Looks like you can start adding more power now.

Thanks for explaining your adapter plate, it makes sense now.
Tyler

Reply #28May 26, 2010, 11:11:02 pm

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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2010, 11:11:02 pm »
Adding more power?  That is the general way of thinking but I'm quite happy with the current power output.  More power would really start stressing things badly as I just can't help myself when it comes to the go pedal.  I've got a few more miles on it now with the new clutch and it is feeling really good.  It's so nice to be driving this thing again as my daily driver.

I plan on just driving the truck for now but down the road I have a couple things I'd like to change or upgrade.  The fuel line from the tank is a 5/16" steel line which I plan on going with 3/8" line.  I also need a better lift pump. 

My exhaust also needs some help.  I never had room for larger than stock exhaust coming off the turbo when the k14 was installed but fortunately the new vnt outlet gave me about an extra inch of room between the downpipe and the firewall.  I'll order up a couple 2.5" mandrel bends and make a nice downpipe to compliment the vnt.

31" tires coming soon as well. :)


I'd sure like to be running a pump from you guys Burn but My own budget pump will have to do for now.
Toyota truck 4x4 with Mtdi, M-vnt gt1749va, 11mm pump, fmic, smog .216 nozzles.  Sold!
Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #29May 31, 2010, 03:35:02 am

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Re: Toyota mtdi truck, stage 2
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2010, 03:35:02 am »
When I bought my adapter plate kit I wasn't aware of guys making their own.  I was happy with the price I paid since I don't have access to a machine shop capable of building these parts accurately.  With shipping, tax, it cost me 695 ca.

Judging by your fab skills with the VNT mechanical actuator I think an adapter wouldn't have been out of the reach for you but buying when you can is nice.

 

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