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Reply #30April 07, 2010, 02:20:42 pm

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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2010, 02:20:42 pm »
Vince, you beat me >:(...... ;D yeah that's what I was thinkin', maybe a blob of goo dropped onto the splines or something.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #31April 07, 2010, 02:26:30 pm

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2010, 02:26:30 pm »
the cover is not there.. Dunno why dunno how it is missing, was there when i timed it :(!

Ok so say water got down in there, will it dry up and be ok? Say a glob of goo dropped in there, will it free up and be ok? Or is this a stupid mistake that has completely ruined my day?

Reply #32April 07, 2010, 02:32:12 pm

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2010, 02:32:12 pm »
free play on the clutch, still a stiff feeling as before. All the way to the floor as intended.

Jesus, i hope i didn't just long dick myself.

Reply #33April 07, 2010, 02:34:32 pm

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2010, 02:34:32 pm »
Wait a while and see if anything changes. If it stays the same you could put a hose down the hole and flush everything out real good. IDK what that'll do to the clutch though.........make sure it can drain first though.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #34April 07, 2010, 02:53:23 pm

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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2010, 02:53:23 pm »
i was told by a vortexer with 21,000 posts that water will drain through the clutch.. I believe him, i just went back out and it is still the same.. he suggested a possible Throw out bearing failure.. because it can shift fine with the car not running....

I hope not

Reply #35April 07, 2010, 02:56:57 pm

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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2010, 02:56:57 pm »
throw out bearing is easy, you can do it in the car.
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Reply #36April 07, 2010, 02:58:41 pm

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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2010, 02:58:41 pm »
Well lets hope it isn't that, but if it isn't gunk.. lets hope it is something as easy as that.. ;)

what all do i need to complete a job such as this?

Also for the adjusting, reverse is very defined.. down and way over to get it.. no way of mistaking it for first.. why is 5th so hard?

Reply #37April 07, 2010, 02:59:13 pm

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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2010, 02:59:13 pm »
Seems like a pretty sudden failure under strange circumstances :P
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #38April 07, 2010, 03:00:42 pm

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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2010, 03:00:42 pm »
Well lets hope it isn't that, but if it isn't gunk.. lets hope it is something as easy as that.. ;)

what all do i need to complete a job such as this?

Also for the adjusting, reverse is very defined.. down and way over to get it.. no way of mistaking it for first.. why is 5th so hard?

You probably need to adjust it so you have to go even farther to hit reverse and that should let you hit 5th.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #39April 07, 2010, 03:30:27 pm

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« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2010, 03:30:27 pm »
I started the car with it in gear, and it lurched. I propped it up and popped off the green end cover, maybe 50-75ml of very light viscosity oil came out.. everything appeared as it should be. friend pushed the pedal and i could visibly see the rod turn and force the little lever to push the cylinder towards the engine. I just put the cover back on to seal it up.. but does more grease and a new cover need to go back on?

Reply #40April 07, 2010, 11:17:56 pm

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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2010, 11:17:56 pm »
Gear oil's what ya want ;), and it'll get in there again when you drive it.

That little cylinder you saw was probably the throwout bearing, the best thing
to do would've been to pull it out and see if it felt good.

A new cover isn't neccessary unless it leaks.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #41April 07, 2010, 11:35:41 pm

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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2010, 11:35:41 pm »
Unfortunately a bum throwout bearing is not going to cause the clutch disk to bind on the input shaft. ;)

Perhaps we should just confirm the symptoms:

1) with the engine *not* running you can shift thru the gears (with the exception of 5th being hard to find)

2) with the engine *running* you can't engage the gears properly, even with the clutch depressed

3) engine off, car placed in gear, clutch pedal depressed, car started... the car lurches forward

Is that about the jist of it at the moment?





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Reply #42April 08, 2010, 10:55:49 am

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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2010, 10:55:49 am »
Unfortunately a bum throwout bearing is not going to cause the clutch disk to bind on the input shaft. ;)

Perhaps we should just confirm the symptoms:

1) with the engine *not* running you can shift thru the gears (with the exception of 5th being hard to find)

2) with the engine *running* you can't engage the gears properly, even with the clutch depressed

3) engine off, car placed in gear, clutch pedal depressed, car started... the car lurches forward

Is that about the jist of it at the moment?

%100.

With the trans cover off,  I can see the little arm push the bearing towards the engine side of the trans for the whole movement of the pedal. I believe it is getting full extension. Unfortunately it rained all night, so no chance to see if it would "dry out" :(

Reply #43April 08, 2010, 11:25:31 am

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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2010, 11:25:31 am »
This just had to happen didn't it? Its Karma coming to kick me in the sack. Wanting to drive a diesel for like 3 years! finally get one and get it on the road, and this happens. greaaaaaat. Now I'm back to the stumbling, vacuum leaking, blown HG 1.7 Gasser.. which is getting worse and worse as we go along.. ballls! I have another trans, but its an AWY with the 3.94 and 0.89 5th..... I mean if i swapped the trans and then swapped 5th gear.. it would only be a cruising difference in 5th of 25 rpms.. roughly. I guess, but i so do not wanna do that much work lol!

What other suggestions could it be? I've got it outside right now idling in neutral to warm it up and hopefully dry off whatever is causing this problem...

Reply #44April 08, 2010, 11:31:06 am

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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2010, 11:31:06 am »
have you checked the oil level in your trans? or recently filled it up with the wrong wait of oil?

also, if you gotta change your trans out? why not just change the trans out and call it good? the cruisin difference from the .89 to whatever you got wont be super huge of a difference.