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Reply #90February 02, 2011, 05:02:07 am

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #90 on: February 02, 2011, 05:02:07 am »
So has anyone tried shimming the idle spring and then adjusting the fuel screw to get more fuel at the bottom end without causing major idle headaches?
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Reply #91March 01, 2011, 11:45:06 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #91 on: March 01, 2011, 11:45:06 pm »
Sorry I didn't see this till now..

Messing with the idle spring doesn't seem to make sens to me.. what would it accomplish? It only provides fueling while idling.

Doing the way that is listed in this thread will increase fueling at all off idle rpm's including the bottom end.

when i wrote this I scoured the web for all the info i could find, and none of the information i found had any gains from shimming the other springs.

Reply #92March 02, 2011, 06:12:00 pm

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« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2011, 06:12:00 pm »
What size shims does seem to fit? (OD, ID)
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Reply #93April 17, 2011, 04:56:07 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #93 on: April 17, 2011, 04:56:07 pm »
What size shims does seem to fit? (OD, ID)

For us metric guys I shimmed up my governor with M4 washers (ID 4.3mm, OD 9.0mm), perfect fit and now my mk1 GTD revs like a maniac ;D
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Reply #94April 18, 2011, 12:26:59 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2011, 12:26:59 pm »
So has anyone tried shimming the idle spring and then adjusting the fuel screw to get more fuel at the bottom end without causing major idle headaches?

shimming the idle, or intermediate spring, will make it very hard to drive..

the idle spring is tiny, you can almost breathe on it too hard and compress it. why would you want to shim it?

the only spring that needs to be shimmed, is the main spring. thats what takes care of the upper RPM fuel cut anyways..

those 2 other springs are fully compressed by like 3k rpms..

and as was stated, washers/nuts work good for shimming the governor.. i think i used m6 or m8 nuts to shim mine.
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Reply #95May 17, 2011, 10:50:18 pm

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« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2011, 10:50:18 pm »
Just updated the bottom of the original post! CHECK IT OUT

Reply #96May 17, 2011, 11:43:09 pm

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« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2011, 11:43:09 pm »
In the new pics, that looks like the Eco pump, no?

Reply #97May 18, 2011, 07:31:16 am

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« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2011, 07:31:16 am »
Not an Eco, my engine is Non-Turbo. that is a 1991 N/a motor in my 84.

Reply #98May 18, 2011, 12:08:05 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #98 on: May 18, 2011, 12:08:05 pm »
its amazing the difference even doing it to a n/a huh?

my diesel would ALMOST keep up with my GTI when i cranked up the fuel, did the gov mod, opened up the intake, and put a header on it..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #99May 18, 2011, 01:31:07 pm

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« Reply #99 on: May 18, 2011, 01:31:07 pm »
Well if you think about it, taking away the fueling issues.. It is still a Fuel Injected 1.6 motor. It is producing probably about the same as a 1.6 FI gas.  Intake, Exhaust, and a port job should make some OK power out of one. A giles pump on all of that would be off the hook.

Reply #100May 18, 2011, 01:57:09 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #100 on: May 18, 2011, 01:57:09 pm »
Well if you think about it, taking away the fueling issues.. It is still a Fuel Injected 1.6 motor. It is producing probably about the same as a 1.6 FI gas.  Intake, Exhaust, and a port job should make some OK power out of one. A giles pump on all of that would be off the hook.

diesel has WAY more energy in it than gasoline, you should be able to build MORE power with a diesel, based on just the fuel.. but it doesnt work that way because diesel burns so slow.
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86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #101May 18, 2011, 02:05:47 pm

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« Reply #101 on: May 18, 2011, 02:05:47 pm »
Oh god, now that there's more pictures I'm feeling the pressure to do this mod.

*orders pump seal kit and mans up* :D
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Reply #102May 18, 2011, 03:34:49 pm

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« Reply #102 on: May 18, 2011, 03:34:49 pm »
I kid you not, 80km/h in 2nd gear was absolutely no feat for it.. And I think that's like 5500 rpm's. At that point you could feel that the engine could still make power.. But the pump was physically topping out

Reply #103May 18, 2011, 05:56:07 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #103 on: May 18, 2011, 05:56:07 pm »
I see you shimmed the main spring completely solid. I recon that gives fueling all the way until the rollers skip, but how does that compare to say, shimming it with a couple of washers instead. I'd like to have fuller fueling up until at least 5,000 so I can support a bigger turbo easier :)
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Reply #104May 18, 2011, 06:19:52 pm

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« Reply #104 on: May 18, 2011, 06:19:52 pm »
The only problem with this mod is that you pretty quickly realize that you need a better clutch  :(
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