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Reply #120July 04, 2011, 11:35:55 am

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #120 on: July 04, 2011, 11:35:55 am »
I need a TURBO ;)

Reply #121July 04, 2011, 12:04:13 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #121 on: July 04, 2011, 12:04:13 pm »
I need a TURBO ;)

i been telling you that for years broski...
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #122December 15, 2011, 08:09:40 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #122 on: December 15, 2011, 08:09:40 pm »
So are there any charts somewhere out there that show how the governor cuts fueling? For example, my engine will get to 5k RPM when floored. So I was wondering at say 3500 RPM for example, how much if any, fuel is being cut. I did my mod way back, so I'm not sure if the word was intermediate spring, or main spring back then. I do seem to remember some hanging issues. Guess I will have to look through my old pics and see if I took one of it. No sense taking it apart if I don't have to.
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Reply #123December 15, 2011, 11:11:04 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #123 on: December 15, 2011, 11:11:04 pm »
You were the one whom schooled me and I helped the fury back in the day. You shimmed the main spring but not fully is what you told me. You only shimmed about 1/8". you had shimmed the intermediate spring and said you had driveability issues.
Burn you money had a graph IIRC that showed stock gov started to cut fuel at 2500rpm and fully cut by redline. Memory could be decieving me, but that is how I recall it.

Reply #124December 16, 2011, 12:09:07 am

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« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2011, 12:09:07 am »
Hehe, thank goodness for younger brains. I may still shim it more eventually. But I'll have to work on a control lever first, then find what I did with my modded timing piston.
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Reply #125January 02, 2012, 08:40:50 pm

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« Reply #125 on: January 02, 2012, 08:40:50 pm »
Just a little FYI/Note for those of you who do this swap. I saw someone else in a different forum have the same issue of car starts, but won't rev.... it could also be related to the person who isn't getting any fuel from the motor. If you look at the lower retaining plate with the 1st spring (base), you will notice 2 horizontal lines stamped on the metal. These are very important ;)
Without any assembly on the car, ballpark idle settings on the idler on back of pump, fuel enrichment screw, and back the stub all the way back and tigten the 10mmx40mm nut to the shaft. Fire the car up, run out (or walk depending on how bad the idle is) and turn the 10mm nut with a wrench forward and backward, revving the motor. set part of the idle with the rear idler THEN the max fuel screw, rev a few times, and set the nut to where it sounds like its idling just a bit low. Turn off the motor, look into the shaft of the nut and see where the cutout is on the top of the govenor armature. make a mental note of where it is, unscrew the nut, then set the plate down with the 1st imprint lined up to the slot. (furthest back setting in relation to lowest idle). If you don't do this, like I did idiotically.... you can't rev the car, and you think that you did something wrong  ??? - at best, you'll screw the max fueling screw wayy the hell in to compensate, but the car will still feel like a dog, and not really do what its supposed to do. And, while you do that, you'll rev the car, and have the idle studdenly climb really high, really quickly, making you crap in your pants, which is what happened to me too  :o  :-\

Just did the govenor mod on my early aaz, and i must say- it feels a bit more powerful, but not anything insanely crazy (i've done a LOT of pump tuning that can be done externally to maximize fueling. I def. blow more smoke now, haha, and I'm ok pleased. The only reason why I did the mod is b/c my IP head seal was dumping fuel like eating a spicy burrito and having to go to the bathroom the next morning with flames shooting out of your butt. No more leaky IP = Yay. A bit more power = yay. My new hoses not getting ruined in 5k miles = Super yay. Need to hose them off to prevent any more damage.

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Reply #126January 11, 2012, 01:58:56 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #126 on: January 11, 2012, 01:58:56 pm »
I had to put it in sticky.. :) Too well done !

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Reply #127January 11, 2012, 10:03:56 pm

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« Reply #127 on: January 11, 2012, 10:03:56 pm »
RedRotors, thank-you.

Funny I wrote this DIY before I personally ever opened a pump ;). I was supah-pro my first time.

As it would seem from on going tomfoolery. After shimming my governor completely solid, that my max fuel screw is backed out 3/32 from stock setting of 31/32 of an inch. Measuring from the base of the fuel screw stop, to the tip of the screw itself.

Reply #128January 29, 2012, 01:03:08 pm

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« Reply #128 on: January 29, 2012, 01:03:08 pm »
Thanks for the great write up 8v!

I did this mod yesterday when resealing my pump. Think you might be able to point me in the right direction for making a boost controller? Also, I block the BOV in the intake, but where do I put the hose off the valve cover.. just leave it disconnected?

Edit: Alright, got it figured and blocked off properly now. Thanks.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2012, 02:26:37 pm by steevz »

Reply #129January 29, 2012, 01:04:23 pm

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« Reply #129 on: January 29, 2012, 01:04:23 pm »
The line off the valve cover? I think you may have disconnected the wrong line?

Reply #130March 06, 2012, 11:50:50 pm

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« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2012, 11:50:50 pm »
updated the first post.

Reply #131March 18, 2012, 07:49:35 pm

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« Reply #131 on: March 18, 2012, 07:49:35 pm »
I've got a question for those who have pulled the main spring and shimmed it solid.  I took apart a spare 1.6NA pump and replaced the main spring with a couple nuts and washers.  I got as close as I could to being perfect as I could so that I'd still be able to get the e-clip back on.

What I noticed is that when the assembly is put back in the cage, there's maybe 1/16" play that was never there before.  Without the spring putting preload onto the assembly, it's not perfectly tight.  I'm wondering if this is normal or if I need to lap another washer to get it as close to machinist perfect as possible. 

I'm thinking of maybe adding a shorter and softer spring or cutting the original, just to get the preload back.  The idea of softer is because that spring will be a bear to compress and hold when it comes time to put the e-clip back in.

I seriously doubt the governor would fall out, but I want to make sure before I put it in my truck's pump.  When I originally did the shimming on the pump that's in the truck, I didn't go crazy.... maybe 4mm, maximum.  Is there really a benefit to shimming more, or even solid?

-Todd

Reply #132March 28, 2012, 11:15:40 am

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« Reply #132 on: March 28, 2012, 11:15:40 am »
Anyone gov modded an EcoDiesel pump? What are your results? I am thinking of doing it after adding EGT- already have tach and boost.

Reply #133March 28, 2012, 12:16:12 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #133 on: March 28, 2012, 12:16:12 pm »
It would work the same. You will like it if you like more power.

Reply #134March 28, 2012, 04:45:50 pm

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Re: 2010 Edition of the Governor Mod
« Reply #134 on: March 28, 2012, 04:45:50 pm »
peak torque for my engine happens at 2400 rpm. Will this mod  change it?

 

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