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Reply #15April 19, 2013, 01:29:15 pm

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 01:29:15 pm »
My bet is the turbo or its associated parts like the drain line has a hole. I wouldn't run anything in the diesel or the oil until you do a leak down and compression tests to see if it is the rings/valves.

I'd pull the elbow between the turbo and intake to check for leaking turbo seals, plus do the compression/leakdown tests.

Reply #16April 19, 2013, 03:31:15 pm

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 03:31:15 pm »
Unless you get really lucky and find a bad turbo seal you will need to pull the head, jerk the pan, and change the rings. It should only take you about 8 hours.

Reply #17April 19, 2013, 04:49:24 pm

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 04:49:24 pm »
Bad turbo seals can blow a bit of oil... I'm putting 1qt/350mi into one of my Jettas.

Reply #18April 19, 2013, 05:00:17 pm

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2013, 05:00:17 pm »
Just did a compression check;320,340,320,320 !!but i am at 2500ft.
what i dont get is, no blue smoke!
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Reply #19April 19, 2013, 05:28:24 pm

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2013, 05:28:24 pm »
what i dont get is, no blue smoke!

It gets burned like the fuel.

Reply #20April 20, 2013, 03:48:01 pm

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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2013, 03:48:01 pm »
ive only checked the top ring..1.65mm gap at 1.25inches from the top of the bore.
Can i use non stretch big end bolts?.
1992 1600 td syncro camper

Reply #21April 20, 2013, 05:35:11 pm

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2013, 05:35:11 pm »
what i dont get is, no blue smoke!


It gets burned like the fuel.

Yup. it only smokes blue on an engine with a throttle plate or restricted intake tract.

Reply #22April 20, 2013, 06:19:56 pm

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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2013, 06:19:56 pm »
Before i replaced the turbo [may 2012] it would lay a big blue cloud on full throttle.
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Reply #23April 20, 2013, 11:26:07 pm

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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2013, 11:26:07 pm »
I, admittedly foolishly, swapped a really high mile TD to synthetic years ago and it would most assuredly smoke blue at idle and under hard acceleration. Wasn't there the week before on dino and was gone a week after back on dino. It was wore the heck out. :-)

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Reply #24April 21, 2013, 01:48:03 pm

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2013, 01:48:03 pm »
ok a bit more;second compression ring .45mm so in spec,oil control ring 1.50mm so well worn out [like the top ring ].
Looks like i got sold a mixed of rings !!.
So tomorrow we look for rings!.
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Reply #25April 22, 2013, 08:42:24 am

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2013, 08:42:24 am »
who did the turbo? I stated earlier that I thought it could be somewhere in the turbo parts.

Reply #26April 22, 2013, 10:35:11 am

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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2013, 10:35:11 am »
Turbo was a re-con done by a UK company,no play in the shaft and no oil in the compressor,so you dont think the worn rings are the cause of the very low compression?
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Reply #27April 22, 2013, 11:17:37 pm

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2013, 11:17:37 pm »
Possible, but I had one that had 240 -260 in the holes and it didn't use oil it just started hard.

Reply #28April 23, 2013, 03:30:47 am

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 03:30:47 am »
Thanks,well it starts instantly [like a direct injection engine] just runs a little rough if i dont have the cold start pulled out.
I plan on replacing the crank oil seal [flywheel end].
Thanks for all the advice.
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Reply #29May 06, 2013, 11:46:53 am

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Re: un-sticking stuck piston rings
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2013, 11:46:53 am »
Well I did find one stuck ring the second compression ring on cylinder number four!
Im waiting for stretch big end bolts ....
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