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Got half a tank of water today
by
zozie
on 25 Jul, 2009 19:36
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Well today I managed to purchase 1/2 tank of water at the pump.
(MK1 1.6 N/A)
Can't think of anything else... 30 mins of driving after I filled up, I started slowly loosing power and the idle was getting low, then it finally died and wouldn't start again.... Pulled the filter off, FULL of water. There wasn't any diesel in it just water. Emptied the filter, filled it up with fresh diesel, then came about 20 mins of cranking and she finally came back to life and runs fine. The some coming out of it for the first 5 minutes was brutal tho, then it went away. She runs and sounds fine. So tomorrow I'll change the oil and the fuel filter. Is there anything else I can do? I guess I'll have to drain the tank but I don't recall seeing a drain plug on the bottom and it has no water separator....
It must have come from the pump cause I just had my tank changed 800 kms ago. I just hope the cranking didn't do any damage to the engine
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#1
by
burn_your_money
on 25 Jul, 2009 20:38
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Get a good fuel additive in there for extra lubrication. Stanadyne makes a very good one. Maybe even throw in some new 2 stroke oil or ATF just to be safe.
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#2
by
catlin_cava
on 25 Jul, 2009 20:53
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the last time i got water in the tank... it did some serious damage
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#3
by
fatmobile
on 25 Jul, 2009 22:58
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My buddy statered getting water in the tank.
One of the lines in the wheel well,
near the fuel fill,
came loose and the wheel was kicking water up into it.
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#4
by
zozie
on 26 Jul, 2009 04:38
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the last time i got water in the tank... it did some serious damage
what exactly?
My buddy statered getting water in the tank.
One of the lines in the wheel well,
near the fuel fill,
came loose and the wheel was kicking water up into it.
I think that may be my issue as well..... Since my tank was just changed a few weeks ago.
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#5
by
catlin_cava
on 26 Jul, 2009 08:19
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for me it happened last november, I fuelled up and left the station, got about 5km down the road and the car quit on me. would turn over but not fire. i left it sit a bit then she started went 1km and it died again,,,never fired again, i had to leave it for a week before i could haul it home. the tank was frozen, all the lines were frozen, there motor seized, wouldn;t turn over at all... maybe in the summer it might be better, since nothing can freeze
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#6
by
zozie
on 26 Jul, 2009 08:39
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Well mine is running just fine again.... I put a new filter on with ran it for 10 mins, then drained it out, (still lots of water) repeated the process 5! times and now there seems to be diesel only in the filter. For the last change tho I went with 50% ATF 50% diesel. I'll take it for an oil change tomorrow as well. It must have come from the pump cause I checked all the fuel lines and I cannot find any leaks.
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#7
by
catlin_cava
on 26 Jul, 2009 08:44
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I'm glad its working for you. Mine was heart breaking since I had built my car lol. i tried heating up the car in the winter and get it started and it wouldn't turn over at all anymore
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#8
by
Rabbit TD
on 26 Jul, 2009 17:34
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I'm glad its working for you. Mine was heart breaking since I had built my car lol. i tried heating up the car in the winter and get it started and it wouldn't turn over at all anymore
Why don't you get yourself a bottle of fuel antifreeze {dry gas} or whatever the term in your area? What that stuff does is let the water mix with the fuel so it will burn instead of just laying in the tank on the bottom waiting to get in the fuel line again. Don't mix that stuff any stronger than what it calls for on the bottle though.
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#9
by
catlin_cava
on 26 Jul, 2009 18:24
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Car is gone, I sent it to the wreckers
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#10
by
arb
on 27 Jul, 2009 09:02
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I'm glad its working for you. Mine was heart breaking since I had built my car lol. i tried heating up the car in the winter and get it started and it wouldn't turn over at all anymore
Why don't you get yourself a bottle of fuel antifreeze {dry gas} or whatever the term in your area? What that stuff does is let the water mix with the fuel so it will burn instead of just laying in the tank on the bottom waiting to get in the fuel line again. Don't mix that stuff any stronger than what it calls for on the bottle though.
"Dry gas" is actually alcohol. It does not mix the water with the fuel oil, rather it absorbs the water into the alcohol forming a combustible liquid, minus the lubrication our IP requires... I would not use it on my diesel. Rather, get a fuel filter with integrated water separator and dump the water there. Your IP will be much happier.
The phenomenon of the alcohol absorbing water is something us pilots utilized to determine if the auto-gas we want to burn in our planes is free of alcohol (FAA requirement here in the US) - We take a clear bottle with some water in the bottom, mark the level, add some gas, shake it and see if the water level raised, indicating
the presence of alcohol.
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#11
by
Rabbit TD
on 27 Jul, 2009 18:17
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I'm glad its working for you. Mine was heart breaking since I had built my car lol. i tried heating up the car in the winter and get it started and it wouldn't turn over at all anymore
Why don't you get yourself a bottle of fuel antifreeze {dry gas} or whatever the term in your area? What that stuff does is let the water mix with the fuel so it will burn instead of just laying in the tank on the bottom waiting to get in the fuel line again. Don't mix that stuff any stronger than what it calls for on the bottle though.
"Dry gas" is actually alcohol. It does not mix the water with the fuel oil, rather it absorbs the water into the alcohol forming a combustible liquid, minus the lubrication our IP requires... I would not use it on my diesel. Rather, get a fuel filter with integrated water separator and dump the water there. Your IP will be much happier.
The phenomenon of the alcohol absorbing water is something us pilots utilized to determine if the auto-gas we want to burn in our planes is free of alcohol (FAA requirement here in the US) - We take a clear bottle with some water in the bottom, mark the level, add some gas, shake it and see if the water level raised, indicating
the presence of alcohol.
My main point is however is works it gets the water out by letting it get burned if it's just a little bit and you don't want to pull the tank. Surely one little bottle with some ATF also with a full tank wouldn't hurt anything but I would definately also have the water separator filter. Come to think of it I can't remember ever getting one that didn't have the drain on it. I know the Purolator from Autozone has one.
I do know that you don't want to mix it stronger than called for though or by much. I had a 77 Mercury XR7 years ago and got water in the tank, my tank was down close to E when I noticed it so I got 5 Gal. of gas and 2 bottles of dry gas figuring more would be better and the next day on the way home from work the fuel pump started squirting out of the vent hole {mechanical pump}, it softened the diaphram up that much overnight and that car was only 8 years old at the time with less than 50,000 on it. It does get rid of the water but I'll never mix it like that again. As far as those in car water separators back by the filler hose, when and in what cars did they start putting those things in? 81 Rabbits don't have them do they?
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#12
by
8v-of-fury
on 28 Jul, 2009 19:46
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have you gone back to the gas station and reamed them a few new buttholes!?!
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#13
by
catlin_cava
on 28 Jul, 2009 20:52
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have you gone back to the gas station and reamed them a few new buttholes!?!
" There is no way to prove the fuel came from here... even thou you have a receipt from 10 minutes ago..." thats what I got form the manager... never returned there ... not even to the tim hortons in his store
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#14
by
lovinthedeez
on 28 Jul, 2009 21:25
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81 rabbit won't have a water separator, it's a mk2 thing.....
and I hear ya on the boycott thing.....I had a fueling/repair shop where I always got diesel from, until they tried telling my little lady she needed 2400 dollars in repairs, when all it needed was a water pump
. picked it up as soon as she called me, and never was a patron of that place ever again......