82 Audi 5000 Turbo Diesel.

[Rabbit on Roids]

but, i made a shocking discovery.

THOSE BASTARDS ARE REALLY REALLY HEAVY!
2950 lbs or somethin?
my rabbit weighs a little over 1600.
i like how my rabbit handles, and how good it rips.
a 3k pound audi will take twice as much HP to make it go as good as my rabbit.
oh yea, theres a couple Avants on CL around here that i see off and on.

[MJF]

I was a little suprised how heavy my ī94 100 Avant is. I thought it would be around 1400kg (~3100lb) but itīs 1650kg (~3650lb) :lol: Quattro is 50+kg heavier...

[colectb]

Here's the deal: I'll straight up trade you if you buy that car. I have an '80 with the Turbo Diesel engine and a 5 speed.

[OM617]

2950 lbs or somethin?

Hey! Whats wrong with that? My car weighs 3200lbs!

[saurkraut]

but, i made a shocking discovery.

THOSE BASTARDS ARE REALLY REALLY HEAVY!
2950 lbs or somethin?
my rabbit weighs a little over 1600.
i like how my rabbit handles, and how good it rips.
a 3k pound audi will take twice as much HP to make it go as good as my rabbit.
oh yea, theres a couple Avants on CL around here that i see off and on.

I have an '86 5000 turbo quatro wagon with a stick.  The trans ratio on the quatros is not low.  Fifth gear at 80 MPH is 3K rpm.

There's a guy on this board from central Minnesota that was selling an earlier 5000 that he put 5000 TD motor in with a stick, front wheel drive.

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=15948.0

I went to take a look at it.  That trans was really low geared, 70MPH was probably the upper practical limit.

But he also had a newer quatro chasiss with a 5 speed stick that he put another 5000TD into, with a 5000 intercooler too. He let me drive it and that thing really flew.  I believe it was the same trans as my 5000TQW.  Nice RPM at speed, and the engine had NO PROBLEM moving it around.  And it still was in stock trim, pump wise.  So it had the potential for even better performance.

[Rabbit on Roids]

nah, im just going to pass on the 5k. i have since rekindled the love affair with my rabbit. its amazing how bad a little boost leak can hurt your power. i think im just going to dump some money into that car rather than buy a new different car like i wanted. but hey, what the hell, now im going to be able to afford to rebuild my TD engine and throw the SC on there. omg its going to be so nice having boost as soon as i let the clutch out. thats the only thing i dont like about mine, it takes a second, like literally a second, for the turbo to spool up. but instant spoolage would be way better.

[colectb]

but, i made a shocking discovery.

THOSE BASTARDS ARE REALLY REALLY HEAVY!
2950 lbs or somethin?
my rabbit weighs a little over 1600.
i like how my rabbit handles, and how good it rips.
a 3k pound audi will take twice as much HP to make it go as good as my rabbit.
oh yea, theres a couple Avants on CL around here that i see off and on.

I have an '86 5000 turbo quatro wagon with a stick.  The trans ratio on the quatros is not low.  Fifth gear at 80 MPH is 3K rpm.

There's a guy on this board from central Minnesota that was selling an earlier 5000 that he put 5000 TD motor in with a stick, front wheel drive.

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=15948.0

I went to take a look at it.  That trans was really low geared, 70MPH was probably the upper practical limit.

But he also had a newer quatro chasiss with a 5 speed stick that he put another 5000TD into, with a 5000 intercooler too. He let me drive it and that thing really flew.  I believe it was the same trans as my 5000TQW.  Nice RPM at speed, and the engine had NO PROBLEM moving it around.  And it still was in stock trim, pump wise.  So it had the potential for even better performance.

Yeah, that earlier one is mine now. It definately has a ***ty transmission. Do you know if i could put a gasser transmission into it? I don't know much on what would bolt right up or not

[saurkraut]

I have an '86 5000 turbo quatro wagon with a stick.  The trans ratio on the quatros is not low.  Fifth gear at 80 MPH is 3K rpm.

There's a guy on this board from central Minnesota that was selling an earlier 5000 that he put 5000 TD motor in with a stick, front wheel drive.

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=15948.0

I went to take a look at it.  That trans was really low geared, 70MPH was probably the upper practical limit.

But he also had a newer quatro chasiss with a 5 speed stick that he put another 5000TD into, with a 5000 intercooler too. He let me drive it and that thing really flew.  I believe it was the same trans as my 5000TQW.  Nice RPM at speed, and the engine had NO PROBLEM moving it around.  And it still was in stock trim, pump wise.  So it had the potential for even better performance.

Yeah, that earlier one is mine now. It definately has a ***ty transmission. Do you know if i could put a gasser transmission into it? I don't know much on what would bolt right up or not

I think the only 5000TDs in the US were automatics.  So you probably have gasser transmission in it now.  My frau's 100 is a five speed too, non-quatro.  ( she's a farm girl and calls Quatro's 'four wheel drive'.  I'm relutant to get her a Quatro as I know she'll be driveing it in the corn fields during harvest at her folk's place and I'm not to keen on un-wraping corn stalks from the five rotating shafts under the thing)  The 100 is much lower geared than my 5000 TQW.  I wonder if there are any non-quatro turbo's with a five speed that would have the same ratios as the turbo quatros?

[colectb]

I wonder if a porsche 924 transmission would work.... And I'm pretty sure that 5 speed in my car is for a diesel, my that car was originally a NA diesel, and i'm sure those transmissions had to be pretty low for the car to even move; Tom told me that they took over 20 seconds to get to 60

[lovinthedeez]

hey rabbitonroids.  come on over to ashland sometime and check this out.  a friend of mine is selling this, and needs to get it off the property. I could prolly get him down to 300 or so i bet.  runs and drives well,  cosmetics are another story.
http://medford.craigslist.org/cto/1231561815.html

hit me up if you're interested, I

[Rabbit on Roids]

so uh, anyone who knows about these 5 banger motors, i would really appreciate some questions answered.
do the 2.0's suffer the same ill designed crank sprocket as the 1.6? ive got a small supercharger to play with. i think the audi could stand to have a supercharger. might get out of its own way then.

[rabbid79]

Yes they do.  I've seen the problem happen on a 60K mile engine.  Just follow the same advice for the 1.6 cranks, such as new bolt torqued properly, and new sprocket.  VW/Audi also makes a friction washer which should help the problem immensely.  A new bolt, sprocket, and washer cost about $60 from genuineaudiparts.com, and should take care of any problems, provided that the keyway is in good condition to begin with.

[Turbinepowered]

Yes they do.  I've seen the problem happen on a 60K mile engine.  Just follow the same advice for the 1.6 cranks, such as new bolt torqued properly, and new sprocket.  VW/Audi also makes a friction washer which should help the problem immensely.  A new bolt, sprocket, and washer cost about $60 from genuineaudiparts.com, and should take care of any problems, provided that the keyway is in good condition to begin with.

Wonder if you could TDI-sprocket the Audi crank nose, too?

Seems a pretty permanent fix. TDI sprocket and a fresh bolt, off you go.

[TPW]

I wonder if a porsche 924 transmission would work.... And I'm pretty sure that 5 speed in my car is for a diesel, my that car was originally a NA diesel, and i'm sure those transmissions had to be pretty low for the car to even move; Tom told me that they took over 20 seconds to get to 60

Yes Cole A gas Transmission form a CS Turbo Audi without quattro should bolt right up.  I think a quattro transmission would work too if you removed the drive mechanism for the rear driveshaft.  You may have to modify the front axles, but I think the diesel shafts will bolt up to the turbo gas transmission.  I'm still happy with my 5 cylinder Turbo Diesel  Quattro.  I've put on about 7000 more miles on it, it doesn't leak any oil and uses about a quart every 1000 miles.  MPG at 65 mph is about 37.

[MJF]

5cyl crank nose is not same as 4cyl, its bigger.