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#15
by
westcoaster
on 04 Jul, 2009 18:58
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Change in tactic....
So the block is trash, that is plain to see. I had the head in for a pressure test and they told me it was leaking between intake and exhaust on one cylinder. I opted to simply toss it back on the block with a new gasket anyway.
This really is a "nothing to lose" engine....
I would like to be able to get another half dozen or so tanks of diesel through this before I pull it for a long block. I also need to solve my cooling issues and ensure the rad I have will keep things cool.
Drilling the ends of the crack to keep things from travelling is a start. grove the crack and fill with?
So, let's hear your bootyfab solutions to seal this thing up and get it running again. I'm not done blowing this one up yet....
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#16
by
Zulfiqar
on 04 Jul, 2009 19:02
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that is bad - it can be repaired tho - find someone who really knows how to weld cast iron, its a very finicky process
usually caused by overtensioned headbolts not tightened in the correct sequence - it can also be caused by blocked headgasket passages..
when I replaced my headgasket - which btw was the original factory VW gasket, the coolant holes on cyls 3 and 4 were larger while on cyls 1 and 2 were smaller, makes sense coz the pump is running just south of cylinder 1 - its got loads of coolant flow available immediately cyl 4 doesnt.
I always make sure to enlarge the coolant holes for cyl3 and 4 in new head gaskets
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#17
by
lovinthedeez
on 04 Jul, 2009 19:49
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just wonderin', what is the bolt hole that the crack goes through hold on; the injection pump bracket? makes you wonder which bolt was torqued too much, the cylinder head bolt or that one. either way, that sucks. good luck....
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#18
by
westcoaster
on 04 Jul, 2009 20:10
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just wonderin', what is the bolt hole that the crack goes through hold on; the injection pump bracket? makes you wonder which bolt was torqued too much, the cylinder head bolt or that one. either way, that sucks. good luck....
It's a double nut thing that holds on the IP bracket and the one bolt for the timing belt cover.
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#19
by
53 willys
on 04 Jul, 2009 20:30
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your better off with a different block all together imho...thats a really bad crack that will take lots of work to "fix" and even then your asking for trouble.
seems like it would be money..time and headache ahead if you found a new engine.
if you do run it please report back
if that crack goes to the Head gasket surface then I cant see how you could stop any leaks for very long.........
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#20
by
burn_your_money
on 05 Jul, 2009 07:00
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If you have compression in that cylinder I'd channel out the crack a bit, fill it with JB weld and then run that coolant that doesn't require any pressure. Evans perhaps? I would not use that "double nut" bolt hole though.
I'd recommend a leak down test on that cylinder to see if combustion gasses are getting into the oil or coolant.
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#21
by
westcoaster
on 05 Jul, 2009 11:42
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Well, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by trying that.
None of the parts I have bought can be re used on a new engine so I might as well get some use out of them.....
edit:
I will need to install that "double nut" thing back in the block with gobs of permatex sealant on it to keep any leaks from dribbling out of the hole...
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#22
by
maxfax
on 05 Jul, 2009 14:11
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Dang!
If it weren't for having to pull the head again, I'd grind it out and fill it with brass.. Old school head and block repair from back in the day, but it worked rather well... Trouble is you're gonna have to get it hot and probably end up damaging the HG...
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#23
by
Smokey Eddy
on 05 Jul, 2009 18:37
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could always weld the crack with the head off and grit your teeth?
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#24
by
Dean Erickson
on 05 Jul, 2009 21:39
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I had to spot weld a ring grear on my two cylinder JD 70 flywheel. I used my arc welder with nickel rod. Worked great. Might work for the block.
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#25
by
westcoaster
on 05 Jul, 2009 22:33
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Oh, Yeah!
This is going to be booty fantastic (if it holds for very long....)
Ground out the crack a little with a rotary file.
Mixed up some JB weld and applied to the cracks.
Permatex form-a-gasket between the IP bracket and the block. Stuffed some permatex down the hole (not enough no doubt) applied a liberal ammount to the threads on the "double nut" and screwed that in without cranking it down too tight.
It'll more than likely still leak a little. At least it won't be gushing out without any pressure in the system like it was before.
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#26
by
burn_your_money
on 05 Jul, 2009 22:34
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Switch to a coolant that doesn't require pressure. I'm pretty sure it's called Evans coolant
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#27
by
92EcoDiesel Jetta
on 05 Jul, 2009 22:41
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Switch to a coolant that doesn't require pressure. I'm pretty sure it's called Evans coolant
It's expensive sh*t though. Over $30 a gal and you may need to buy extra sh*t to wash out the system so it's gonna be a lot of dough.
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#28
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 09 Jul, 2009 12:18
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i bet you, or the previous owner cracked it from torquing the head. or it could be from tons of boost. is this a turbo engine? on my first 1.5D, i cracked 7 out of the 10 threaded holes in the deck of the block. but over 30psi didnt help that situation out any.
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#29
by
8v-of-fury
on 09 Jul, 2009 18:38
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It's expensive sh*t though. Over $30 a gal and you may need to buy extra sh*t to wash out the system so it's gonna be a lot of dough.
Garden hose, and some Dawn dish soap from your local General store. Great for washing out the system trust me
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