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July 04, 2009, 02:32:25 am

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Big Power Diesels??? Projects?
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What other engines out there are prime for tuning in the same way the IDI engines are?

I am thinking along the lines of a BIG power project. I don't mean a Cummins, something that may still fit in say an Audi 100/5000 or a BMW E30 etc etc.

Is the Chev V8 any good as it seems to put out pretty terrible power for size...... I assume a Turbo or two would help...

I know of a V10 Touareg engine but it's a bare engine and getting it running out of a Touareg would probably be a nightmare.

So what do you guys think?  ;D Any great ideas out there?

Reply #1July 04, 2009, 02:38:53 am

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 02:38:53 am »
the inline 5 cylinder audi/vw lumps are good. Old merc 300d's are monsters, loads above 500hp!
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Reply #2July 04, 2009, 02:41:41 am

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2009, 02:41:41 am »
500!!!!!  :o

I will go searching now, that would make a coooool daily drive hahaha.

Reply #3July 04, 2009, 03:03:33 am

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2009, 03:03:33 am »
If you want cheap and cheerful tuning get a 1.9 PD, a simple remap will give you loads more power - let alone some real mods.

Reply #4July 04, 2009, 03:27:13 am

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2009, 03:27:13 am »
I am running a 1.6/1.9 engine in my Skoda pickup that's cheap and cheerful hahaha, I was just interested in what else is out in the diesel world...

Reply #5July 04, 2009, 12:17:00 pm

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2009, 12:17:00 pm »
Reasonable prices the 1.9 TDI PD from the MK4/Bora/etc is decent and you can get some high figures from them.

The Chevy V8 is pants. Really.

If you can, give the V10 Toureg a go, it's all about getting the wiring sorted.

Reply #6July 04, 2009, 12:53:36 pm

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2009, 12:53:36 pm »
Here's an e30 with a twin turbo v12.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=116916&highlight=v12+twin+turbo
I'm sure that thing makes some big power, not diesel but wtf. Bmw didn't start making good diesel motors until a few years ago, the m21 was a good motor I guess but not good for big power.
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Reply #7July 04, 2009, 12:54:57 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2009, 12:54:57 pm »
If you have room for a chevy v8 [which are garbage] why not a ford powerstroke ? I always wanted to put one of those into the 80's model mustangs
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Reply #8July 04, 2009, 01:35:26 pm

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2009, 01:35:26 pm »
if i was using one of the big 3's diesels it would no doubt be a cummins.
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Reply #9July 04, 2009, 02:25:45 pm

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2009, 02:25:45 pm »
Go for the V10.  I covet that engine.
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Reply #10July 04, 2009, 02:30:38 pm

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 02:30:38 pm »
The trouble for me at least is the availability of engines in New Zealand, most stuff is Japanese. Would be VERY hard to find a Powerstroke or Cummins. Seen a few Chev V8's and a fair amount of Farm/Boat stuff but not much automotive based stuff.

V10 Touareg engine is a non start really, would need all the ECU parts for it to run and then have to code out lots of features. A guy got it in to fit to a boat here and then realised it wasn't that simple.... But yes a great engine, not as good in my opinion as the Audi 4.2 TDi(except in the R50) and no where near as good as the V12 Audi :D

Reply #11July 04, 2009, 03:54:40 pm

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 03:54:40 pm »
The trouble for me at least is the availability of engines in New Zealand, most stuff is Japanese. Would be VERY hard to find a Powerstroke or Cummins.

How about Mercedes 300 engines? om603 or 606 (w124 and w210)
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Reply #12July 04, 2009, 06:27:39 pm

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 06:27:39 pm »
Very few of them too, I have seen the odd 300d non turbo for sale but never seen a turbo diesel.

Reply #13July 05, 2009, 12:34:04 am

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 12:34:04 am »
The trouble for me at least is the availability of engines in New Zealand, most stuff is Japanese. Would be VERY hard to find a Powerstroke or Cummins.

How about Mercedes 300 engines? om603 or 606 (w124 and w210)

602 is more popular. inline 6's never came turbo'd.


190e 2.5 with the 5speed and a turbo from a 300 is most popular (manuals never came turbocharged either)
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Reply #14July 05, 2009, 01:25:00 am

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 01:25:00 am »
I am completely lost with these Mercs.......

What is the "good" engine, inline 5 or 6 and 2.5 or 3l???