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January 20, 2009, 07:37:18 pm

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« on: January 20, 2009, 07:37:18 pm »
I am currently rebuilding a 1.6L diesel from an '89 Jetta.  I'm at the point of pulling the head.  Looks like I need another VW tool...3-square socket.  My Snap-On dealer says there are several sizes he carries and cannot reference the size for me.  8 - 10 - 12 mm?  How can I determine this?  Is there a better place to buy than Snap-On?  I do live very remote...

Thanks...

I've read the intro., etc....being new perhaps there's a place where this has already been asked?



Reply #1January 20, 2009, 10:05:57 pm

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 10:05:57 pm »
It would be cheaper and more selection to buy a kit that has sockets that you can then put any of the selection of bits. They come with every triple square size and type.Just make sure it's a good enough set that can take the torque of loosing and tightening bolts.
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Reply #2January 21, 2009, 07:28:03 am

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 07:28:03 am »
Caveman,

Thanks.  I'll check some more.  6 hours to Winnipeg.  Local Acklands wanted $40 for 27mm impact socket (frozen injectors).  I got one at Candian Tire for $12, but was a 2 hour trip one way.

The head bolts need to be tightened three times when re-installed?  Once initially, once after first firing, once after 1,000 hours.  Is that correct?

Can someone measure their headbold 3-square for me...outside point to outside point?

Craig

Reply #3January 22, 2009, 10:37:23 am

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 10:37:23 am »
It is 12mm . If you need the Snap-on  tool number let me know. I'll go back into my garage and get it .
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Reply #4January 22, 2009, 10:47:43 am

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 10:47:43 am »
I bought a set of 4 of these, 6, 8, (which fits the axle bolts) 10, and 12, for $14 at a parts store.  They aren't the best quality but I've used them many, many times and if one breaks, then I'll buy another set.

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Reply #5January 22, 2009, 12:23:47 pm

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 12:23:47 pm »
yes they are 12mm. I got my set of 4 at c-tire. Around $15-$30, I forget. I've used them many times and I've only broken 2 or 3 I think.

If you only plan on using the tool once, I'd get c-tire. Otherwise, snap-on for sure.
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Reply #6January 22, 2009, 12:28:20 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 12:28:20 pm »
Thanks - I was thinking it was 12 mm.  Good advice.  I ordered a set yesterday 6, 8, 10, 12...they are already in town waiting for me.  On my way in as soon as I am off of here.

Craig

Reply #7January 22, 2009, 11:39:46 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 11:39:46 pm »
so you're using a 1.6L marine diesel engine? did it come stock in the boat or was it retrofitted or being retrofitted (from the 89 jetta)??? very cool!


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Reply #8January 23, 2009, 12:23:12 pm

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 12:23:12 pm »
This is a great site and I will need help.  You have some great posts and hints.  I'm glad you're here.  Thanks for your time!

Craig

Reply #9January 23, 2009, 06:35:05 pm

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2009, 06:35:05 pm »
Great blog on the boat and everything else.  How did you clean up your air cleaner box?  Looks great.
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Reply #10January 24, 2009, 11:04:06 am

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2009, 11:04:06 am »
What type of marine transmission are you using?
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Reply #11January 25, 2009, 04:41:34 pm

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2009, 04:41:34 pm »
I cleaned the engine before disassembly, but still lots to do.  One part at a time.  The air cleaner I scrubbed with plenty of soap and Tide.  Plastic needs conditioning.  Then used Armor-All cleaner and then Armor-All.  Mechanics is my first priority, but by the end I want this to be dazzling as well.  I'm thinking about painting the engine...CAT yellow maybe?  I want dirt to show up and wipe down easily.

The tranny is from Lancing Marine.  Traditional, straight shaft through-hull.  I want a work boat for fresh water.

I've had this engine in marine use before.  Needs a rework now...

Reply #12September 02, 2009, 09:55:18 pm

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2009, 09:55:18 pm »
Have you ever looked at Harbor Freight's catologue, they have the best prices anywhere and I've bought lots of tools from them with no problems.  It's not Snap-on quality but works fine and they have lots of things other people don't.  Go on-line and get one of their free catalogues mailed to you.  They have a diesel compression gauge set with all the adapters for like $24.  I got mine in the 90's from them and it was more than that then and still works fine.  Also they have a 250 lb. electrc impact gun that I use constantly for wheels that's really cheap too.  I like Snap-on but it's just riduculously expensive to me and too many middle-men in the picture to get the price down to a reasonable level.  They have a pay a little at a time but forever plan that seems to work pretty good for them to suck people in and once you get on their truck and see their stuff it's hard to leave without buying something.  Best thing to do is when you see their truck pulling in just run the other way as fast as you can and hide till he's gone but he will try to sniff you out ;D

Reply #13September 03, 2009, 05:19:39 pm

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2009, 05:19:39 pm »
Get a syringe or turkey baster, then you can suck out that pool of oil in the head of each bolt, to make sure the tool gets right in there, a couple of light taps with a mallet will make sure the wretched thing is not going to strip. (A near miss rebuilding mine last month  ::))