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Reply #30November 01, 2008, 10:52:57 am

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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2008, 10:52:57 am »
I agree, a torque wrench is a must for tightening injectors. Plus, absolutely make sure the threads are clean of debris/deposits. I can say from personal experience that I did not enjoy installing a new head in place of what was a perfectly good one.  :oops:  :x
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Reply #31November 01, 2008, 12:08:19 pm

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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2008, 12:08:19 pm »
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for tightening injectors you dont really need a torque wrench...



I actually got a little light headed when I read that...........  :shock:

Broken injector boss's are going to be showing up now!! Way to go!!   :?


Seriously though. I will NEVER not use a torque wrench again on a injector.

NEVER!


i've seen andy2 do it flawlessly without... but i guess you need to have a feel for it.

the way i see it, it will feel pretty good when the heat shield is being bent in, and then you'll feel it tighten up.  maybe you guys just don't know your own strength?  :lol:

another key to this, is that anti seize was used.  so a lot more torque was being applied to the actual tightening, and not overcoming the friction... so it was easier to feel the actual torque.

BUT i always like doing things by the book too... it would be a shame to ruin a boss just by 'cutting corners'...


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Reply #32November 01, 2008, 02:11:31 pm

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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2008, 02:11:31 pm »
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Called VW who said there was some sort of PCV type valve that goes on top of the valve cover, at a cost of 80 bucks.


They lied. On a NA it is built into the valve cover. If you take your valve cover off and look on the inside where that hose comes out you will see a mesh like piece built in there. I beleive you can clean it out (light compressed air and varsol or something similar). The TDs and gassers have the one above the valve cover
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Reply #33November 02, 2008, 06:50:54 pm

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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2008, 06:50:54 pm »
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Called VW who said there was some sort of PCV type valve that goes on top of the valve cover, at a cost of 80 bucks.


They lied. On a NA it is built into the valve cover. If you take your valve cover off and look on the inside where that hose comes out you will see a mesh like piece built in there. I beleive you can clean it out (light compressed air and varsol or something similar). The TDs and gassers have the one above the valve cover


Thanks, Tyler. Next time I'll just PM ya. :)

Was hoping to see a pic in the Bentley Book. No go. Will take off valve cover and check that screen. Hopefully that will do it.

As for now, I'm leaving my oil dipstick out to release the pressure.

Thought I'd give ya a break.. What do I owe u now, 2 cases of beer? lol
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Reply #34November 02, 2008, 07:07:17 pm

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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2008, 07:07:17 pm »
My information is free (and not always correct), unless you are calling my 1-900 number :P
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Reply #35November 02, 2008, 10:51:48 pm

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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2008, 10:51:48 pm »
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My information is free (and not always correct), unless you are calling my 1-900 number :P



If I call this number, ya better be worth it.. lol
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Reply #36November 03, 2008, 11:50:46 am

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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2008, 11:50:46 am »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
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Quote from: "jtanguay"
for tightening injectors you dont really need a torque wrench...



I actually got a little light headed when I read that...........  :shock:

Broken injector boss's are going to be showing up now!! Way to go!!   :?


Seriously though. I will NEVER not use a torque wrench again on a injector.

NEVER!


i've seen andy2 do it flawlessly without... but i guess you need to have a feel for it.

the way i see it, it will feel pretty good when the heat shield is being bent in, and then you'll feel it tighten up.  maybe you guys just don't know your own strength?  :lol:

another key to this, is that anti seize was used.  so a lot more torque was being applied to the actual tightening, and not overcoming the friction... so it was easier to feel the actual torque.

BUT i always like doing things by the book too... it would be a shame to ruin a boss just by 'cutting corners'...


I've done it a few times myself but that one time "SNAP"!!!!!  

SONOFABI*CH!!!!!!!!!!

So ya, I'll be using a torque wrench from now on.

I guess the worst part was I was just minutes from starting the engine after a rebuild so when that happened my heart just sank..
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Reply #37November 09, 2008, 08:46:01 pm

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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2008, 08:46:01 pm »
Took off valve cover today. Cleaned screen in a parts washer. Some sludge did come out. Cleaned out "Y" hose to air intake.

Still blowing dipstick up a few inches.

Tyler mentioned the brake booster vacuum. Go for compression test Friday. We'll see how that goes.


Seems like rings, as as few have posted.  

Thanks to all for  the help on both mileage and this problem.

Stay safe, stay well.
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