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Reply #15October 07, 2008, 07:07:31 pm

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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 07:07:31 pm »
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even a water pump for $320...


 :shock: 24k gold plated???


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Reply #16October 07, 2008, 07:09:16 pm

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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2008, 07:09:16 pm »
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make sure to change glow plugs while the pump is out if you need to that is...


nonono... at LEAST remove them, inspect them, and then put anti seize on them so its not such a pain replacing them down the line.  remember that these things can go at anytime...  even replacing them doesn't guarantee they'll last unless you get Beru's which are a really good name.


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Reply #17October 07, 2008, 07:34:06 pm

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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 07:34:06 pm »
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make sure to change glow plugs while the pump is out if you need to that is...


Well the pump and injectors are out on their way to Gile's.
Yes I need to do plugs as two of them are out of service.... Surprisingly my engine still started just fine I didn't notice anything at all :shock:
Anyways it's safe to say that this pump has not been times in a long time as we had to use "the force" to get it aoof once all the bolts were removed... Now I need to get the valve cover gasket, but not sure yet which one its gonna be cause I haven't taken it off yet and there are 2 for 84.
I'll post pix of the process, tho the pump removal vas a nice and quick process.

Reply #18October 08, 2008, 08:48:44 am

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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2008, 08:48:44 am »
Well we just did a compression check and 3 cylinders came between 497-501, and one at 489, while cold after 6 cranks. Should I be worried about the difference between the 3 and the 1?

Reply #19October 08, 2008, 09:01:11 am

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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 09:01:11 am »
is that engine brand new?? mine starts and runs fine with 360,340,410 and 440.
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Reply #20October 08, 2008, 09:03:30 am

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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 09:03:30 am »
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is that engine brand new?? mine starts and runs fine with 360,340,410 and 440.


I wish.... it's got 160km's on it. got it from first owner tho who maintained it and changed the oil every 3km. the mechanic pullig it aparts swears it's never been apart before and the injectors are original. Just putting uploading pix now.

Reply #21October 08, 2008, 09:17:31 am

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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2008, 09:17:31 am »
First pix of the surgery. Now is a good time to clean the engine as it was also rust proofed by prev. owner :roll:

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Reply #22October 08, 2008, 10:20:59 am

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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2008, 10:20:59 am »
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Well so far everything I got for this thing except the exhaust came from the dealer.... I did put on aftermarket calipers and one of them was seized right out of the box so went and got new ones from the dealer. even a water pump for $320... I wanna keep it original but this time the pump is goin' to Gile's as the dealer quoted $1600 on it....


I would HIGHLY recomend contacting myke on the board for your parts.

He has really great prices even with shipping and gets OE stuff.
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=798


X2 myke has been great with me too.......VW dealer parts prices make me laugh!!!


$155 for a 2 notch head gasket!!  :lol: (fiber) :lol:

Reply #23October 08, 2008, 11:30:44 pm

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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2008, 11:30:44 pm »
If I had those compression numbers I would be so happy. :shock:  I checked mine about march of 2007 and they were like 365-380ish.

X2 on getting stuff from myke w, he's got a rubber valve cover gasket with studs for cheap.
If your oil pressure is getting low myke has a high volume oil pump that bumped my oil pressure up another 20PSI plus it has a better relief valve that stopped my cold oil pressure spikes.

BTW, AFAIK all 8V VWs have a interchangeable VC gasket.

Good idea on changing the engine mounts, since you got the IP out anyways.....

Another thing you might wanna do is make sure the surface on the VC were the gasket goes is flat, mine got all warped from overtightening the nuts and leaked even with a new gasket. Good luck
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Reply #24October 09, 2008, 08:15:48 am

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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2008, 08:15:48 am »
Well the pump is now at performance diesel with the injectors. Gile does seem like a very nice guy and he really knows his stuff. Those never been there before, he's got a very nice sized shop will all the equip. one could think of and just when I got there, there was a pump being tested.
Can't wait to drive it when its all done next week 8)  Maybe it will feel like a real car, maybe I'll even be able to beat a dumptruck or a citybus at the lite :twisted:

Reply #25October 09, 2008, 09:57:04 am

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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2008, 09:57:04 am »
What  the hell's going on here?
Are you a sucker for spending money?
Clearly, with compression that good the vehicle has never been abused. Why the heck are you changing everything  just for the sake of it?  I have had 8 Quantums, [still have 3 1/2] and I only ever had one waterpump leak.
  No 1 thing to remember, new replacement parts are rarely as good as the original.
 A working glowplug should be left alone, unless you need to take it out specifically. Or its comrades have been regularly dieing. If it's melted then it wont work...  
No need for a rubber gasket. They are definitely better, but not OEM which is what I seem to recall you wanting and all you need to do is flatten rocker cover back to its proper shape  and it will not leak. Check oil filler seal. They quietly leak and allow oil to drift back along the cover under the reinforcing bar; and then let it drip over the block.
 It's people like you keeping  garage dealers in comfort in their Porsches... My dealer would be pushing a Jamaican Ice cart if he was relying on me  :wink:
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Reply #26October 09, 2008, 10:08:48 am

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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2008, 10:08:48 am »
Well I'm only doing the stuf I find neccessary. 2 plugs are dead, I'll do those. The engine mounts are clearly worn.....

Reply #27October 09, 2008, 10:29:32 am

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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2008, 10:29:32 am »
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Gile does seem like a very nice guy and he really knows his stuff.


Yeah, but did you meet that jerk Tyler that works with him ???   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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Well I'm only doing the stuf I find neccessary. 2 plugs are dead, I'll do those. The engine mounts are clearly worn.....


Dude I'm with you.  When things are already apart imho it so much easier to clean everything up and head down the road in confidence.

Just my personal preference, but as an example I always replace all 4 glow plugs as a set... imho once one goes the rest are sure to follow (assuming they all came out of the Bosch factory around the same time approximately) and I hate wondering when the next one will decide to head south.  You already have the buss bar off... already have the tools and at least one bruised set of knuckles... and the OEM ones are 11 bucks a pop.  The ones that are still good become emergency spares or give-aways to friends in a bind.

Just my approach...


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Reply #28October 09, 2008, 11:20:56 am

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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2008, 11:20:56 am »
$11????? the delaer said $50 each if I recall correctly. I'll prolly get some only cause the won't be going back together till mid next week.

Reply #29October 09, 2008, 11:23:08 am

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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2008, 11:23:08 am »
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$11????? the delaer said $50 each if I recall correctly. I'll prolly get some only cause the won't be going back together till mid next week.


$50 ea!?!?!?!  :shock:

I didn't pay that for all 4..

Your getting hosed again..
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