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Reply #45July 22, 2009, 12:47:30 pm

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Re: '79 Rabbit: Another 1.5TD
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2009, 12:47:30 pm »
Nice Ride!  I always wanted a TDI Radio Flyer.   :P
LAWL

Thanks for the encouragement Lord_V.  I'm really having to move with this as it had transitioned into the -getting yelled at- phase.  That's mostly gone away now that some paint is down.

Would my 1.5 have enough power to push a mid 80s s10 Blazer with a k04 & turbo pump added?  I see that those trucks had an optional 2.2L Isuzu diesel engine that put out 58HP...  It would need mount fab and trans adapter plate?  My dad's '84 came with the "powerful" 2.8L V6 that puts down 110HP/148lbs and gets between 13-18MPG.  The emissions vacuum on the thing is a horribly twisted nightmare.

i have never seen an S10 diesel. ever. in my entire life.
ive seen lots of isuzu pup diesels and chevy luv diesels tho.
the V6 engines are a waste of time. they had a tiny 1 bbl with an intake air heater.
and the bottom end of those engines, lets not even go there. i will just say that the crank wasnt even rated to hold 110 hp. my cousin owned a 4x4 s10 truck once, by the time we sold it, it was on its 6th engine. it would just break cranks left and right. or spin rod bearings or always something.

but as for the VW into the blazer?
is the blaze 4 wheel drive?
did it come with a 2.8 or a 2.5?
you ever thought of how much those bastards weigh?
my toyota weighs 4k. and those s10 blazers are definitely more heavy than a 4runner, half of my truck is fiberglass.
it might move it yes, but its not going to be a rocket by any means. i even have the infamous 3.0 in my truck, and the only reasons i havent taken out yet is:
1.) it runs too good
2.) its not broken
3.) i cant find a suitable diesel replacement that wont be absolutely gutless.

and i cant think a 1.5 with four thousand pounds of chevy around it would be very happy, or go very fast. it would work the guts out of the poor little 1.5. lol, these engines came in cars that weighed between 1600 and 2000 lbs. say you doubled the HP output of the engine, or even bumped it up to a honest 100 hp. its still going to be exactly as fast as it were in the car in stock form.
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Reply #46July 22, 2009, 02:25:57 pm

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Re: '79 Rabbit: Another 1.5TD
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2009, 02:25:57 pm »
1.5 into an S10 isn't something I'd do either... the TDI would be happier, but neither engine is really going to be even remotely ideal. That S10 wouldn't haul anything any longer, with the 1.5 in it...

In all honesty, I'd say find yourself a nice military surplus 6.2, or better one of the earlier 6.5 GM V8s to shoehorn in there. Either one of them would be much happier in that environment, and they aren't bad engines; just fairly gutless next to the 7.3 Fords and 5.9 Cummins they inevitably struggled to compete with.

Reply #47July 22, 2009, 03:31:11 pm

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Re: '79 Rabbit: Another 1.5TD
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2009, 03:31:11 pm »
Agreed.  The 1.5 will work much better in the Radio Flyer.

The 58hp Suzuki diesel s10 must have only existed in California.  I bet there weren't many made, and probably even fewer still in operation.  The engine is listed in the shop manual for the s10.
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Reply #48July 23, 2009, 09:09:34 am

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« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2009, 09:09:34 am »
You see Perkins 4-cylinders on ebay every now and then.  Various sizes from 2.5-4-ish  liters.  Some turbo some not.  The newer versions, (which I can't remember the series now) even meet a lot of emissions requirements.  They are rated low hp output but usually their rated hp is for genset or hydraulic applications where the rpm's are low.  I'm sure they could handle some tweaking and more rpm's.  I'm still on the "holy grail" search for a smallish-diesel engine for a small truck/utility vehicle (Jeep in my case, though I got rid of mine) that is plentiful, and powerful enough to drive it like a normal car or even tow/haul with it.  The Cummins 4BT is just too damn big and heavy and the VW variants (that we have in the US) are too small.

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81 Scirocco 'S -->Soon to be m-TDI
93 Corrado SLC VR6
'86 Golf N/A Diesel  -->Wife's car
1990 Audi CQ
05 New Beetle PD TDI


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Reply #49July 23, 2009, 10:17:19 pm

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Re: '79 Rabbit: Another 1.5TD
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2009, 10:17:19 pm »
Nice Ride!  I always wanted a TDI Radio Flyer.   :P
LAWL

Thanks for the encouragement Lord_V.  I'm really having to move with this as it had transitioned into the -getting yelled at- phase.  That's mostly gone away now that some paint is down.

Would my 1.5 have enough power to push a mid 80s s10 Blazer with a k04 & turbo pump added?  I see that those trucks had an optional 2.2L Isuzu diesel engine that put out 58HP...  It would need mount fab and trans adapter plate?  My dad's '84 came with the "powerful" 2.8L V6 that puts down 110HP/148lbs and gets between 13-18MPG.  The emissions vacuum on the thing is a horribly twisted nightmare.
I know all about the getting yelled at in that phase of a project.  Around 1971 I got a 57 Chevy 2 door hard-top with no engine or transmission with a perfect body and all primed with all the trim peices for $200, that's about all they were worth at that time not running.  I had just gotten married and didn't have a pot to piss in and my Step Dad got after me to get it done or get it out of the garage downstairs because I had everything tied up and don't blame him.  I actualy ended up giving that 57 2 door hard-top away back then but like I said before they were a dime a dozen at that time.  The trouble is back then most of us gear-heads didn't have the necessary dime when we needed one. Look at it like this, what's a 15 year old Caprice worth today with no drive train, next to nothing.   I guess it was for the best anyway back then, my marriage would have probably ended about 2 years sooner than it did.  I did make it to 3 though and in the end I had a Vega and 2 kids.  I still have the kids ;D

Reply #50July 24, 2009, 01:38:36 pm

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Re: '79 Rabbit: Another 1.5TD
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2009, 01:38:36 pm »
You see Perkins 4-cylinders on ebay every now and then.  Various sizes from 2.5-4-ish  liters.  Some turbo some not.  The newer versions, (which I can't remember the series now) even meet a lot of emissions requirements.  They are rated low hp output but usually their rated hp is for genset or hydraulic applications where the rpm's are low.  I'm sure they could handle some tweaking and more rpm's.  I'm still on the "holy grail" search for a smallish-diesel engine for a small truck/utility vehicle (Jeep in my case, though I got rid of mine) that is plentiful, and powerful enough to drive it like a normal car or even tow/haul with it.  The Cummins 4BT is just too damn big and heavy and the VW variants (that we have in the US) are too small.

Brendan

when you figure it out, let me know.
and if i figure it out before you, ill share my results also.
i have a few toyotas here that could stand to have their gas hearts ripped and replaced with oil burners.
i kinda toyed with the idea of a D24 in a yota, but never made anything materialize.

Reply #51August 20, 2009, 09:42:34 am

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« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2009, 09:42:34 am »
Still working on this thing.  Finally got around to installing replacement struts.  Now to install motor  ;D  Need to find a TDI pedal cluster.  Here are a couple shots from painting front panels a few weeks ago:
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pre-clear
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'94 Chevy 2500 6.5TD
'96 BMW 318ti

Reply #52September 28, 2009, 12:26:45 am

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« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2009, 12:26:45 am »

Visited podunk scrapyard for straight hood hinges and other body-related items.  Their 2 rabbits were stacked on top of dodge stratuses stacked on rims, which made for fun jungle-style access only. Also picked up drive by wire pedal.

De-oxidized and protected




Pulled pan on the TDI.  Guts look healthy -- 7/97?

To do:
-figure out dash/cluster setup -- my dash is crackeddddd
-Chop IP bracket mount for TDI fit
-Install tranny on engine; install in car
-New CV boots, reinstall axles
-Run power to donor fuse panel [lazy] -or- migrate lighting/cig/tank sender/etc. wiring to new box
-1 or 2 more coats of clear; Polish
-Install exterior trim
-Misc. interior tweaks: sunroof, headliner, etc.

My rabbit has a hood and fenders again.  It almost looks like a real car
« Last Edit: September 28, 2009, 12:55:32 am by drrtybyl »
'79 Rabbit Diesel L
'94 Chevy 2500 6.5TD
'96 BMW 318ti

Reply #53November 22, 2009, 12:02:45 am

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'79 Rabbit L TDI
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2009, 12:02:45 am »
So I've finally made some progress on this project.

Modified mount/belt cover plate:


I really wish I had a load leveler.. Had to remove hood of course


In!


I'm a little concerned with how close the waterpump pulley is to the frame.  It doesn't rub, but it's really close.  Might require some modding.




Now to sort out the wiring and begin endless cosmetic tweaks
'79 Rabbit Diesel L
'94 Chevy 2500 6.5TD
'96 BMW 318ti

Reply #54November 22, 2009, 01:07:09 pm

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« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2009, 01:07:09 pm »
looooking goooood :) Congrats on everything so far.

Reply #55November 23, 2009, 11:38:23 am

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« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2009, 11:38:23 am »
i cant wait to see some full boost burn outs...

Reply #56December 04, 2009, 12:35:57 pm

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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2009, 12:35:57 pm »
After re-aligning the back transmission mount the water pump pulley is nowhere near hitting the frame.  Been rebuilding axles, installing lighting, trim, etc.  More photos to come
'79 Rabbit Diesel L
'94 Chevy 2500 6.5TD
'96 BMW 318ti

Reply #57December 04, 2009, 12:42:09 pm

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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2009, 12:42:09 pm »
oh man, so close to some full boost brodies...

Reply #58December 04, 2009, 03:41:12 pm

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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2009, 03:41:12 pm »
After re-aligning the back transmission mount the water pump pulley is nowhere near hitting the frame.  Been rebuilding axles, installing lighting, trim, etc.  More photos to come


I read that as "installing lightning" the first time I read it, and thought that you were taking the TDI install just a little too seriously.  :P
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Reply #59January 06, 2010, 12:31:52 pm

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« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2010, 12:31:52 pm »
"rebuilt" axles:

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Rebuilt shift linkage.  For some reason installing axles in this thing with the engine/transmission already in as a unit was a real PITA.  I had to unhook one of the mounts and tilt the engine to get the pass. side axle to connect.
My engine came with half of a downpipe, so I am fabbing the other half that connects to the flex pipe.  Then it's on to wiring, and finally, driving. Progress has been slow lately due to lack of garage and abnormally cold/snowy weather.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 12:43:55 pm by drrtybyl »
'79 Rabbit Diesel L
'94 Chevy 2500 6.5TD
'96 BMW 318ti