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Clutch noise?
by
Smokey Eddy
on 08 Sep, 2008 02:01
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While idling with the clutch OUT i can hear a strange disgruntling sound and with the clutch IN it goes away and all i can hear is the gentle pur of my lovely diesel. I only recently noticed it. What is that?
If you need more description i'll get under it and get someone to push the pedal in and out and i'll post my findings.
Thanks,
Ed.
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#1
by
jtanguay
on 08 Sep, 2008 09:46
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when does the clutch engage when you release the pedal? my auto adjusting cable screwed up on me and only caught right at the end... so i think it was slipping a bit and now i have a little bit of noise, but it seems fine. i was able to re-adjust the cable with my brothers help tho
it could be low oil pressure at idle too, but i'm not 100% sure... just don't sit at traffic lights/stop signs with the clutch in. even though you'll fail your road test if you don't have it in gear at a stop... :roll:
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#2
by
Smokey Eddy
on 08 Sep, 2008 12:02
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Yeah the oil pressure is low because i wasted 25$ on some $%#&* piece that doesn't even work. The Mann filter i got was 9$ ...
And Yes, it does grab very late in the pedal travel. How did you adjust the auto adjusting one?
Pm me?
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#3
by
Smokey Eddy
on 18 Sep, 2008 00:46
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well the oil pressure is good now with a nice Mann filter and i still get the strange noise when the clutch is engaged (in neutral feet off the pedals)
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#4
by
jtanguay
on 18 Sep, 2008 11:14
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don't drive it too much like that... its like riding the clutch
the way i adjusted mine was have my brother depress the pedal a few times while i pulled on the cable at the tranny end (i had a pair of vice grips on the cable part and NOT the arm). eventually it just snugged up and was all better (i did it a few times). some repair manuals will have instructions on how to do it such as haynes and the all powereful BENTLEY
if your car isn't starting, it shouldn't be too hard to get it going with warm weather. i bet you have the same problem i did... go buy yourself the older style fuel filter for an '85 jetta/golf that does not have the fuel pre-heater. now take the two lines and splice them together, and actually cut off their ends because they are probably all split on the inside (letting air into the system). that should fix any fuel problems, now onto the starter.. if its turning over nice and fast, then don't worry, but if it isn't, just clean all contacts as best as you can. if that doesn't work, then you may need to have your starter rebuilt, or possibly a new battery. then it's onto glow plugs, which is probably the most probable reason for not starting. not a fun job to do if there is no anti seize on them
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#5
by
smutts
on 20 Sep, 2008 16:14
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If it is a sort of rattly noise at idle, and goes away if you try to engage a gear (NOT REVERSE!) without depressing the clutch, then it is probably the anti-shock springs on the clutch plate, these wear into the clutch plate over time and can rattle, and even fall out. The drag on the gearbox primary shaft when you try to engage a gear without hitting the clutch causes some load on the anti-shock springs, and stop the looses ones rattling. Don't worry about it.
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#6
by
Smokey Eddy
on 20 Sep, 2008 20:46
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Hmmm
ok. I did what jtanguay suggested and the clutch grabs a little earlier (maybe 1 inch sooner im going to do it a few more times)
but the noise is still there. I'm going to do the gear thing to see if that's it.
Thanks!
Heck, it's probably a combo of both
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#7
by
smutts
on 30 Sep, 2008 13:39
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BUT! don't try to ram the thing in gear, just the pressure of a finger will be more than enough to try this.
If there is no reply, I will assume the the poster has met an unfortunate end through the back wall of his workshop.
Legal notice, I am skint. Also I am not to be trusted with machinery. :wink:
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#8
by
Smokey Eddy
on 30 Sep, 2008 14:52
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Yeah the noise went away when i put pressure on it.
If it is a sort of rattly noise at idle, and goes away if you try to engage a gear (NOT REVERSE!) without depressing the clutch, then it is probably the anti-shock springs on the clutch plate, these wear into the clutch plate over time and can rattle, and even fall out. The drag on the gearbox primary shaft when you try to engage a gear without hitting the clutch causes some load on the anti-shock springs, and stop the looses ones rattling. Don't worry about it.
Are these springs really unnessiary?
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#9
by
jtanguay
on 30 Sep, 2008 15:03
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my transmission is making a noise too, ever since what happened to my clutch cable. probably permanent, but i don't really care :lol: i love *** boxes
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#10
by
smutts
on 14 Oct, 2008 14:40
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Are these springs really unnessiary?
Put it this way, the two that I fished out of the bellhousing of my old Datsun F11 Cherry didn't seem to make much difference. The clutch was still running merrily with only the remaining three. Clutch change 45 minutes DIY. What an alien concept to todays car designers.
However, plan on a clutch job in the next year (or three!) :?
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#11
by
Dakotakid
on 14 Oct, 2008 16:35
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These clutch plate springs will break. Often, they will stay in their "slot." If part of it decides to exit the space in the plate, there is a chance it will make repeated contact with the flywheel and "shot peen" the inside of your trans case and the flywheel as well until it disintegrates to very small pieces and settle out in a nook or cranny. You would be amazed how l-o-n-g this will take. Yes...feel free to ask me just how I knows this here info................
I would be gentle with this clutch until you decide to roll up your sleeves and replace it. Just my take.