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Reply #15June 07, 2008, 01:41:46 pm

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 01:41:46 pm »
First off Fantastic Job!!!!!!!

Truly enjoying the tutorial, since I have the same car (86 1.6 N/A) that was in similar shape. Mine was in a backyard for 6 years!!  I didn't go to as great of lengths as you did, so I'm jealous of your craftsmanship 8) Mine is a daily driver now, and I'm still fixing things as they come up.

FYI
1) You can switch out the speedo cluster into your tach unit fairly easily, if you want to keep the correct mileage.
2) I know you have done a bunch of work on your IP, but if it still isn't great, or if you want some more get up and go, bite the bullet and send it to Giles. It is night and day compared to the stock IP. Mileage is still great, but it is now drivable, even up hills and loaded down.

Please let me know what you end up on doing for shocks and struts. I'm guessing yours are similar to mine, and mine are shot. I have looked into stiffer springs, but haven't made any decisions yet.

I'm nowhere near the mechanic you are, seeing what you have attempted so far, but if there is anything that I might be able to help you with, IM me sometime.
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Reply #16June 07, 2008, 03:30:19 pm

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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2008, 03:30:19 pm »
I got the tach to work! 8) I replaced the spade connector at the W terminal and started it up. It took about 2 minutes for the alternator to finally wake up and send a signal, but it did and I found that I am idling at 1300 rpm. I'm going to mess with the injector pump later and to make the car faster and bring the idle down.

The car is making a high pitched whining/grinding sound when it warms up. I think it is the timing belt. I see a lot of black powder in the timing cover and the side of the timing belt is worn down. I think it is wearing on the intermediate pulley's ridge. You can see the metal cord in the top of this pic and it slowly fades away:


Hopefully it will just wear itself into place because I have already tried fixing the timing belt tracking once and I think I have done all that I can do.

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I don't really know where beavercreek is but ohio isn't that big...when your dun with your project how much do you charge for other  :lol:
where did you get the guages? I like them. I was going to go cheap for some of mine, but those might have me turned around. Great work...I'm serious on the hiring deal :twisted:

I got the gauges from http://www.42draftdesigns.com/
They are VDO gauges and I think it fits really well with the car. Nothing too fancy. Maybe someday I could work on someone else's car, but I have a lot of work to do before I'm done with this thing!  :P


Quote from: "mtnbob"
First off Fantastic Job!!!!!!!

Truly enjoying the tutorial, since I have the same car (86 1.6 N/A) that was in similar shape. Mine was in a backyard for 6 years!! I didn't go to as great of lengths as you did, so I'm jealous of your craftsmanship Cool Mine is a daily driver now, and I'm still fixing things as they come up.


Thanks for the kind words! I am fixing mine to be a daily driver as well but I really want to add a turbocharger soon. But first I want to get everything in working order before I start adding power! Giles does a great job on injection pumps, but they cost a lot! I think I will see how fast I can get with a turbo and tinkering with the IP myself. It is cheaper and I can learn a lot more.

I might try switching my speedo. But this one goes up to 120! I wonder if I can open this speedo up and manually rotate the numbers back to the original mileage?
1985 VW Golf Diesel 1.6L N/A
My Build Thread: http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14607.0

Reply #17June 07, 2008, 06:18:23 pm

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2008, 06:18:23 pm »
When it comes down to it, who cares about the mileage anyway on an 86 or 85 vehicle :shock: It will prob get you lower taxes anyway! Keep the threads coming!! I'd be curious to see what you do with the turbo if you ever go that route.
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/2598033828_d3d19f9842.jpg?v=0
96 Subaru Outback Wagon

Reply #18June 07, 2008, 06:37:21 pm

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2008, 06:37:21 pm »
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I might try switching my speedo. But this one goes up to 120! I wonder if I can open this speedo up and manually rotate the numbers back to the original mileage?


Mine goes to 220. :D

And congrats on getting the tach to work! Might want to check it against a strobe light or similar to make sure it's reading properly, before you mess with the idle too much. W terminal tachometers can introduce some error, and a not-perfect connection might introduce some more.


How does the T-belt track on the sprockets? About the middle of the sprocket, or is it close to the front of each? If it rides toward the front, you might be able to loosen it and slide it back just a touch to get it off the IM shaft pulley ridge.

Reply #19June 10, 2008, 09:44:52 am

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2008, 09:44:52 am »
Wow, that's looking really good!  If you're ever around central Ohio, look me up!  :D

Brendan
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Reply #20June 11, 2008, 03:47:05 pm

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2008, 03:47:05 pm »
looks great! I just started working on my golf this week, so this thread gives me motivation.
- 1986 Golf Diesel (awaiting TD from Jetta)
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Reply #21June 11, 2008, 09:57:49 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2008, 09:57:49 pm »
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
How does the T-belt track on the sprockets? About the middle of the sprocket, or is it close to the front of each? If it rides toward the front, you might be able to loosen it and slide it back just a touch to get it off the IM shaft pulley ridge.

It is riding good now, I adjusted it toward the center.
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Wow, that's looking really good! If you're ever around central Ohio, look me up!

Brendan

Thanks. For sure.

I'm rebuilding my alternator now, big post coming up.
1985 VW Golf Diesel 1.6L N/A
My Build Thread: http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14607.0

Reply #22June 11, 2008, 10:11:04 pm

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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2008, 10:11:04 pm »
So my tach stopped working... I was driving the car around the neighborhood trying to find the source of the grinding noise. I was driving the car like I stole it and all the sudden my tach goes all the way up to 5000 and then starts wigging out on me jumping all over the place. Then it just died.

I think my alternator is going out on me, so I am going to rebuild it. I looked up some articles on how alternators work and then proceeded to take mine apart:


Separated the stator and the rotor:


Using my harbor freight gear puller to pull off the bearings:


Using an impact wrench to zing off the pulley:


Taking note of the fan, woodruff key, and spacer order:


Using the gear puller to separate the front casing from the rotor:


Taking off the bearing cover:


TADA  :twisted:! This bearing is DESTROYED. There were pieces of metal falling out, no grease, and the ball bearings don't even resemble spheres anymore. I think this is the source of that grinding/whining noise:


Using a socket to smack the bearing out because once again I don't own a press:


Here are both bearings in the alternator. Quite nasty:


Separating the back casing from the stator:


My current progress. The parts I ordered to rebuild the alternator have not come in yet, so I'm waiting:


Here is the car so far (front end make-over is on order):


So a cleaned up, painted, rebuilt alternator is in the works as well as a new front end... coming soon...
1985 VW Golf Diesel 1.6L N/A
My Build Thread: http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14607.0

Reply #23June 11, 2008, 10:24:36 pm

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2008, 10:24:36 pm »
Sweetness. Where'd you order the parts?

Reply #24June 11, 2008, 10:53:17 pm

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2008, 10:53:17 pm »
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Sweetness. Where'd you order the parts?

I ordered the alternator parts from ebay and:

www.rockauto.com

Rockauto ships pretty fast and they have a big selection for just about any car you can think of. Here is a 5% discount code they gave me:

1067387558106

It is valid until August 5th. Anybody can use it; just enter it in when you order in the "how did you hear about us". I ordered my grill and lights from ebay.
1985 VW Golf Diesel 1.6L N/A
My Build Thread: http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14607.0

Reply #25June 11, 2008, 11:18:48 pm

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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2008, 11:18:48 pm »
Awesome. I've got a buzzing alternator myself.

Reply #26June 13, 2008, 07:37:19 pm

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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2008, 07:37:19 pm »
Quote from: "mtnbob"
First off Fantastic Job!!!!!!!

Please let me know what you end up on doing for shocks and struts. I'm guessing yours are similar to mine, and mine are shot. I have looked into stiffer springs, but haven't made any decisions yet.

I'm nowhere near the mechanic you are, seeing what you have attempted so far, but if there is anything that I might be able to help you with, IM me sometime.


Hey thanks for the offer. I have no idea what I should do with my shocks and struts. Like yours, mine are shot. After the brake job, I lowered the car down from the jackstands and the struts popped on the way down. I looked at them and saw the shafts are kind of rusty and they probably are sticking.

I was thinking about going to coil overs because eventually I want to lower the car a bit. But they are pricey. Once I get all the mechanical and electrical problems sorted out, I will start thinking about upgrades.
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My Build Thread: http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14607.0

Reply #27June 15, 2008, 08:40:18 pm

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2008, 08:40:18 pm »
awesome job on this car riddleyo
G60 rocker cover looks nice
individual glow plug fuses sure looked pimped.
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Reply #28June 16, 2008, 11:08:39 am

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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2008, 11:08:39 am »
Once again I must say I like.  It is really cool having it broken up in stages of how your going about things. Also your attention to detail is nice specially in the pictures. Helps a lot of people out.

Also love the gloves to protect the hands but the sandals to protect the feet.  :wink:
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Reply #29June 17, 2008, 10:55:04 pm

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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2008, 10:55:04 pm »
Thats it! Im going to rebuild my Jetta TD! Thank you for the inspiration!
Here is my 1st thread to introduce myself!

I will do a build thread as well.
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