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April 28, 2008, 09:20:32 pm

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« on: April 28, 2008, 09:20:32 pm »
ok so here's the deal i bought a 1.6td motor and it appears that the turbo has siezed up  :(  my question/questions are is there some way i can free it up without pulling it all apart or does it require a rebuild? Im decently ok at mechanical stuff all self taught so if i can do it myself in some way im willing to try if not im looking for a reputable shop to take my turbo to for a rebuild as this is my first experience in turbos have no idea where to go. Now for the details that might make a difference the motor is outside of the car so i can't start it up to get oil running through the lines and the turbo is a stock garrett and this is all from a 92 jetta. Any help is appreciated. Aaron

**EDIT** Forgot to put my location im located around newmarket and willing to make the drive to a place worth my trouble**



Reply #1April 28, 2008, 09:32:16 pm

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 09:32:16 pm »
Try spinning the intermediate shaft with a drill or whatever to build up the oil pressure. Sometimes they get stuck from sitting to long but a good flow of oil frees them up.
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Reply #2April 28, 2008, 09:34:45 pm

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 09:34:45 pm »
ok thanks i will try that tomorrow hopefully it works

Reply #3April 28, 2008, 10:20:16 pm

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 10:20:16 pm »
You may need to loosen the timing belt so you don't burn it up.
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Reply #4May 08, 2008, 01:06:23 pm

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008, 01:06:23 pm »
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
You may need to loosen the timing belt so you don't burn it up.


the timing belt is in no way connected to the turbo.. id say pull off the turbo and buy a rebuilt kit for 100 bucks
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Reply #5May 08, 2008, 01:42:16 pm

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 01:42:16 pm »
The timing belt is connected to the intermediate shaft, which turns the oil pump, which builds the oil pressure Tyler was talking about.
Did you pull the motor from the car or was it already out, did the previous owner say the turbo was bad when you bought it or had the car just been sitting for a long time without being run?
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Reply #6May 08, 2008, 03:16:41 pm

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 03:16:41 pm »
Quote from: "jettabrendan"
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
You may need to loosen the timing belt so you don't burn it up.


the timing belt is in no way connected to the turbo.. id say pull off the turbo and buy a rebuilt kit for 100 bucks


he said to loosen the timing belt so that when the int shaft was being spun it wouldn't spin the whole system.  that way you're just building oil pressure.  

believe me these turbo's can easily 'stick' if left sat for a while.  that is why having an oil accumulator on a turbo is a very very good idea!  i checked mine after sitting for about 4 days and the shaft was stuck.  took a bit to get it to spin (not much) but after that it worke fine.  using the wrong type of oil will definitely ruin a good turbo over time.


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Reply #7May 08, 2008, 03:54:32 pm

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 03:54:32 pm »
Just remember that the IM sprocket runs on the *back* of the timing belt and you'll need to turn the shaft counter-clockwise to run the oil pump.

This also means you should probably re-tighten the sprocket nut when you are done, in case it loosened.

The other way is to remove the vacuum pump and turn the oil pump directly using a 13mm socket.  This has the advantage of not requiring the timing belt to be loosened/removed.
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Reply #8May 08, 2008, 09:26:38 pm

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 09:26:38 pm »
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"

The other way is to remove the vacuum pump and turn the oil pump directly using a 13mm socket.  This has the advantage of not requiring the timing belt to be loosened/removed.


And it's also about 10 times easier. I don't know why my brain likes to think up the more complex ways of doing things first :?
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