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April 24, 2008, 03:07:40 am

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« on: April 24, 2008, 03:07:40 am »
Hi everyone, My name is Jake, and I recently moved to West Virginia to kinda get some land and get away from it all. Like in the Movie Oh Brother where art thou, My home is right in the midst of a Geographic Oddity. 30 miles from EVERYTHING. Shopping, Groceries Etc.  :?

I've been lurking and reading from quite some time now. I know up in Canada 1.9TD's are plentiful but how about the US. Did they ever build a 1.9TD for this market? Is it harder to get your hands on here?

And if you were going to build such an engine with a modest budget, would it be hard to get the parts and such to make it work here?

Or

Should I maybe just be considering a 1.9N/A motor with a Giles pump Job on it for simplicity sake. Perhaps just forget all of this and go with a TDI or m-TDI?

With Diesel and gas approaching 4 bucks a gallon I want something that wouldn't be a dog in the power department at least, but obviously mileage and reliability would be higher on my list then pure power.

Thanks very much for you kind consideration. I hope to be able to immerse my self in the VW Diesel culture very soon.

thanks again,
Jake



Reply #1April 24, 2008, 09:15:06 am

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Reply #2April 24, 2008, 11:58:47 am

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 11:58:47 am »
If you want to get a 1.9 TD (IDI) on the cheap, you'll have to travel north to get it. They were never offered in the US. Sometimes miracles happen: my dad found one in Maine while we were on vacation for $500. Installed it and it ran fine.

But, figure you'd have to drive to Canada to get one, and it's bound to be covered in scaling rust on the outside.

The other option that many people here seen to have taken (jimfoo, tintin, etc), is to convert a 1.9 TDI to an m-TDI. Basically, they've removed the electronic components in favor of a purely mechanical system. The benefits are more power than a stock 1.9 IDI, and greater potential for increased power. The downsides (as I see it), is fabricating an injection pump to work with high enough pressures for the Direct Injection style injectors, and fabricating a mechanical control for the Vairable Nozzle Turbo (VNT). You'll want to do this (as opposed to installing a stright turbo) as the VNT provides consistent boost thru almost all RPM ranges (not just at higher RPMS).

The upside to the m-TDI is that 1.9 TDI motors are more readily available in the US, its power potential, and the lack of electronic crap. The downside is the cost to do the conversion: longblock $1000-2400, custom pump $400-1000, etc. Of course, you could always just keep the electronic controls on the TDI and have easy HP gains with chipping and injector nozzles.

So, you have to pick your poison. High cost but easily available (1.9TDI), or lower cost, but you have to travel to get it (AAZ 1.9 TD).

As far as finding parts for the 1.9TD, it can be done here in the US. You have to do some searching, but they're out there. It probably easier than trying to find an actual longblock.

Reply #3April 25, 2008, 12:53:53 am

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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 12:53:53 am »
Thanks so much. That was just the type of info I was looking for. I've also seen some of the AAZ motors on ebay in the states. I'm sure shipping probably not cheap but who knows. I'll look into that also. Has there been any success in making a mechanical pump make the kinda pressure that the TDI Needs to work properly?

Reply #4April 25, 2008, 01:03:27 am

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 01:03:27 am »
Several years ago when fuel was cheaper, it was $700 to ship my AAZ from Alaska to Colorado. Mechanical TDI pumps are made all the time, so yes it is possible.
Jim
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Reply #5May 13, 2008, 07:58:57 am

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2008, 07:58:57 am »
If you stil check this thread, try Ebay Canada. you WILL find them there. that's where I got mine

lewis

Reply #6May 13, 2008, 10:57:09 am

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 10:57:09 am »
Quote from: "lews9146"
If you stil check this thread, try Ebay Canada. you WILL find them there. that's where I got mine

lewis


Thanks very much.
I'll look on there this evening

red

Reply #7May 13, 2008, 11:15:41 am

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 11:15:41 am »
Quote from: "redhopper35"
Quote from: "lews9146"
If you stil check this thread, try Ebay Canada. you WILL find them there. that's where I got mine

lewis


Thanks very much.
I'll look on there this evening

red


Contact blkboostedtruck on this board.
I think he has a 1.9 for sale in the states.
dan

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Reply #8May 13, 2008, 01:48:56 pm

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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 01:48:56 pm »
I was looking to ship some untested 1.9T-IDI builders from the west coast to Atlanta that originally shipped in from Germany.  I was trying to get a couple guys together to split the shipping costs, but nobody was interested.  PM me for details if you're interested.
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Reply #9May 13, 2008, 10:10:59 pm

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 10:10:59 pm »
Quote from: "Gearhead"
I was looking to ship some untested 1.9T-IDI builders from the west coast to Atlanta that originally shipped in from Germany.  I was trying to get a couple guys together to split the shipping costs, but nobody was interested.  PM me for details if you're interested.


What kind of price are we looking at? I'm in Nashville and would LOVE to dump a 1.9 IDI into my Qauntum.

I travel to the Northeast at least 3-4 times per year (CT), But I will be going to Maine this summer (late August). My pops found a great runner there last summer, and I'm confident I can find one too. So, another option (if you find one), is I MIGHT be able to bring 2-3 back to the south if I find more than one.

Obviously, this will take some coordination. But, the upside is that you buy them from people rather than wholesalers just buying and selling from Europe to US.

I'm not on it now, but I'll definitely be looking into it in the coming months.

Reply #10May 15, 2008, 11:16:03 pm

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 11:16:03 pm »
I just bought a TDI that will be a M-TDI when I'm finished.  I might need another 1.9 later, though.  I had a line on 1.9 TD's untested for $1000 each plus shipping from California.  I travel to Nashville for work.
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