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Reply #195November 02, 2009, 05:42:43 pm

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Re: Vanagon progress
« Reply #195 on: November 02, 2009, 05:42:43 pm »
For you turbo cooling nerds.


Picture is misleading, the engine sits to the other side of the outlet pipe.

Reply #196November 02, 2009, 06:29:44 pm

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« Reply #196 on: November 02, 2009, 06:29:44 pm »
Thanks for the part numbers and pictures. I'm on it.... And will report back once I get it all done. (Won't be right away, i have a big-bore kit for my motorcycle arriving this week, that's going to be too much fun to put off.

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Reply #197November 02, 2009, 09:52:56 pm

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« Reply #197 on: November 02, 2009, 09:52:56 pm »
Thanks for the part numbers and pictures. I'm on it.... And will report back once I get it all done. (Won't be right away, i have a big-bore kit for my motorcycle arriving this week, that's going to be too much fun to put off.

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My riding partner Rick did a big bore kit in his bike, it is sweet, I want one.
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Reply #198November 05, 2009, 08:36:53 am

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« Reply #198 on: November 05, 2009, 08:36:53 am »
Checking ETKA for radiator part numbers and I found this:

(3)   068121253E
radiator / for vehicle use in warm climates / for models with towing facility / for vehicles with air condit.
/ DG,SP

That's got to be the one for me and my van, I am going to look at our local VW junk yard to see if I can find the mounts, shroud, heavy duty fan etc.

Reply #199November 05, 2009, 05:06:38 pm

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« Reply #199 on: November 05, 2009, 05:06:38 pm »
Picture is misleading, the engine sits to the other side of the outlet pipe.

Do you have any photos of the auxillary pump and blower (item #1) installed in a TD Vanagon?  If so, I'd definitely appreciate seeing some.
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Reply #200November 06, 2009, 09:05:56 am

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« Reply #200 on: November 06, 2009, 09:05:56 am »
Checking ETKA for radiator part numbers and I found this:

(3)   068121253E
radiator / for vehicle use in warm climates / for models with towing facility / for vehicles with air condit.
/ DG,SP

That's got to be the one for me and my van, I am going to look at our local VW junk yard to see if I can find the mounts, shroud, heavy duty fan etc.

That's the part number for the 44mm thick one, the same as is fitted to any 2.1 or 1.6TD

Reply #201March 05, 2010, 01:06:24 pm

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« Reply #201 on: March 05, 2010, 01:06:24 pm »
Still tinkering...
I put maybe 1700 miles on the van over the past two weeks, with another 1500 coming up next week.

The oil temps are well under control. I experimented with some simple aluminum wings to draw more air in through the vents. Using my little handheld windmeter, I actually recorded a lower wind speed through the oil cooler than before adding the wings. After that, I added a thermostatically controlled 9" fan and I haven't seen oil temps above about 225 degrees now, with 200 degrees being most common under normal conditions.

I have another one of those fans for the intercooler but I still haven't quite figured out how to control it, or at what temp it should come on.

I replaced my clapped out camper battery with a bank of the SLA batteries and most of the electrical issues in the pyrometer are gone. It still shuts off with the headlights on and acts funky when the cooling fan comes on, but it's much better than before. Next up is to replace the main power lead into the fuse box with a length of fine strand 8ga. wire. There is evidence of the OEM power wire getting hot in the past so it probably needs to be replaced regardless.

It's still not a rocket ship and I feel like 60 mph is about the limit but I can pull most high speed hills in fourth these days. It's definitely more pleasurable to drive...

I've been seeing a consistent 25ish mpg as well. I had been on the fence about swapping out for a 4x4 Cummins Dodge but the van is shining again.

Here's my solution to measuring internal pump pressure, as I've been chasing some issues in my Caddy:


Chris
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'81 NA Caddy

Reply #202March 05, 2010, 04:03:21 pm

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« Reply #202 on: March 05, 2010, 04:03:21 pm »
Good for you for sticking with it Chris. I have finally given up. Just bought a 95 Ford van with a Quigley 4x4 conversion and will be putting my VW Westfalia 1.6td van up for sale in a couple of weeks when I get the time to clean it out a bit. The ford is interesting after driving VW's for decades, it feels as if every control is buffered by large rubber bands. Everything, brakes, steering, handling, is rubbery and vague. But it has a proper low ratio 4x4, AC is dead quiet and feels like it's not even trying going 70 on the highway. Above 85 the vagueness makes it a bit scary but then I don't think I have balls big enough to have tried to even get my VW up to that speed. Got a Moab/Maze off-road trip for the Ford planned at the end of the month.

I will be selling the van as well as decades of VW crap/irresistable treasure later in the spring. Like Syncro rear locking differential, 72 Thing gas heater, 5 Eurovan 16 inch steel wheels with good Hackaloogie snow tyres etc etc. How did I end up with all this!

Keep up the entertaining and creative work y'all, I'm getting too old... I want a car I CAN'T work on. First car I've ever owned that has power windows and locks. Can't wait for one to break.

Reply #203March 05, 2010, 08:17:53 pm

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« Reply #203 on: March 05, 2010, 08:17:53 pm »
I was dead-set on driving my Van off a cliff and buying a Sprinter a few years ago, as I was making 25 mph on I-40 heading home from Taos. Power, AC, cruise control... I hear ya man! It comes and goes for me these days but the Westy's been treating me well and I'm slowly marking projects off the big list. I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a Quigley or Sportsmobile though.

I was just offered an '82 MBZ 300TD wagon for a good price. The Caddy might get replaced as I slowly move up the ladder of luxury...

Chris
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'81 NA Caddy

Reply #204March 06, 2010, 12:10:59 am

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« Reply #204 on: March 06, 2010, 12:10:59 am »
Whatever you do, don't miss out the mercedes if it's in reasonably rust free condition.  My 240d is one of the nicest cars I've ever owned and built like a swiss watch, 265K miles and still purrs like a kitten. And the Estates are that much nicer. I have a '78 300 sedan parts car if you need anything. As for Quigleys, it needn't cost much more than a decent VW van honestly, though you might have to spend a bit of time finding the right one. Next step for me is to do the camper and pop top conversions and I'll have the poor man's Sportsmobile.

Gotta sell the VW first though.

Reply #205March 08, 2010, 05:53:20 pm

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« Reply #205 on: March 08, 2010, 05:53:20 pm »
The oil temps are well under control. I experimented with some simple aluminum wings to draw more air in through the vents. Using my little handheld windmeter, I actually recorded a lower wind speed through the oil cooler than before adding the wings. After that, I added a thermostatically controlled 9" fan and I haven't seen oil temps above about 225 degrees now, with 200 degrees being most common under normal conditions.

Hey Chris-

So do you think the aluminum wings brought your oil temps down or adding the fan?  My oil cooler is in the front of my van but doesn't have a fan.  I see 260 F when climbing long grades at altitude (between 7000 - 10000 ft).

Bill
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http://billwildenberg.shutterfly.com/vwvanagon

Reply #206March 18, 2010, 11:25:43 am

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« Reply #206 on: March 18, 2010, 11:25:43 am »
The wings were worthless... The fan was key. Used to be I'd see 260+ on flat ground if I held boost up around 15psi for too long. Now it barely creeps above 220 climbing hills. I was really surprised at just how fast oil temps rise with boost.

This last trip was Lone Pine > Costa Mesa > Paso Robles > Cambria > Pebble Beach > Salinas > LA > Costa Mesa > Lone Pine. Mileage according to mapquest was about 1300, add in another 100 for side trips - intentional or not - and the van ran flawless. I saw 25.8 mpg last night on my latest fill-up.

Now I'm itching for a hightop, TDi and Syncro. I'm likely to give up my house in Lone Pine and would like to go full-time in the Westy, stealth style at the beach while I'm going to school.

I'm probably heading up to Corvallis for spring break, too but I might take the caddy on that trip - 12 hours each way from Lone Pine - and I want to see what mileage I can get over that distance.

Chris

'82 TD Westy
'81 NA Caddy

Reply #207March 18, 2010, 12:08:45 pm

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« Reply #207 on: March 18, 2010, 12:08:45 pm »
Yup... What Andrew said.
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'81 NA Caddy

Reply #208March 18, 2010, 01:24:02 pm

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« Reply #208 on: March 18, 2010, 01:24:02 pm »
I always wondered about making a tail light spacer that allows the arit to exit to the rear & then blocking off the area into the engine bay.
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Reply #209April 22, 2010, 08:50:43 pm

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« Reply #209 on: April 22, 2010, 08:50:43 pm »
I stepped up to 3" exhaust, out the left side, in an attempt to cut back on tailgate goo... It was amusing before but it's loud now, espcially if I'm driving alongside a wall or something:



Also I'm making progress on engine bracket v2.0. This one probably won't work as well with the Van/Quantum turbo configuration... but that's not really my goal on this go-round:

« Last Edit: April 22, 2010, 08:52:25 pm by Luckypabst »
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