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March 30, 2008, 08:57:26 pm

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Found: one Bosch VE six cylinder pump
« on: March 30, 2008, 08:57:26 pm »
Was rooting around in the scrap bin at work last fall and found a Bosch VE pump for a 6 cylinder engine.  It was likely replaced under warranty and I suspect it was off a Perkins.  I work for a Cat dealer...Cat owns Perkins and uses many of their engines for smaller equipment.  

Anyway, it struck me just last week that it might have a better boost pin than my 1.9.  Sure enough, it has a pretty aggressive pin that seems to be the same shape all the way around.  Its new home is in the pump on my 1.9...there is a bit more power under boost, nothing crazy though.

The only other useful part from this pump I could think of would be the fuel shut-off solenoid (its 12V).

Anyone know of anything else useful on this pump?  Part number is
0 450 426 267.  There are a bunch of other numbers too.  I can post a pic if anyone's interested.


'94 Jetta TD dusty mauve-302,xxx kms

Reply #1March 30, 2008, 10:33:50 pm

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Found: one Bosch VE six cylinder pump
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2008, 10:33:50 pm »
if its direct injection then you could make yourself a 6 cylinder m-TDI  :lol:


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Reply #2March 31, 2008, 09:21:51 am

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Found: one Bosch VE six cylinder pump
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 09:21:51 am »
0 460 426 267    Per207,  6.0L, 135KW, 1996, DI engine, 250B inj.

Pump ''R'' rotation and 1250rpm, It's very similar than a old cummins VE 6BT pump.

The only interesting parts for M-tdi in this pump is the control collar lever and pump housing (20mm shaft) the remain is useless.

Reply #3April 02, 2008, 12:42:16 pm

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 12:42:16 pm »
Interesting...thanks!
'94 Jetta TD dusty mauve-302,xxx kms

Reply #4July 29, 2019, 02:53:25 pm

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Re: Found: one Bosch VE six cylinder pump
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2019, 02:53:25 pm »
Hello.
The parts list.
2 460 283 001    SHAFT SEALING RING    2460283001    3    1
1 467 030 308    SUPPLY PUMP    1467030308    7    1
1 460 134 317    SUPPORT RING    1460134317    9    1
1 463 429 300    TORX FLAT-HEAD SCREW    1463429300    10    2
1 466 100 391    DRIVE SHAFT    1466100391    12    1
1 460 023 302    WOODRUFF KEY    1460023302    13    1
1 460 056 302    BUFFER    1460056302    15    2
1 466 317 301    TOOTHED GEAR    1466317301    16    1
2 460 102 001    SLIDING DISK    2460102001    17    1
1 460 232 377    ROLLER RING    1460232377    20    1
2 463 100 002    BEARING PIN    2463100002    21    4
2 460 300 005    ROLLER    2460300005    22    4
2 460 120 013    FRICTION WASHER    2460120013    23    4
1 463 103 315    ADJUSTING PIN    1463103315    24    1
1 463 120 359    RETAINING PIN    1463120359    25    1
1 461 310 300    RETAINING BRACKET    1461310300    26    1
1 460 140 334    CROSS DISK    1460140334    27    1
1 466 111 662    CAM PLATE    1466111662    29    1
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    30    1
1 463 104 702    TIMING-DEVICE PISTON    1463104702    31    1
1 463 218 312    SLIDING PIECE    1463218312    32    1
1 460 100 902    SELECTION GROUP SHIM RING    1460100902    33    2
1 464 619 633    COMPRESSION SPRING, 38,20 MM    1464619633    34    1
1 464 619 634    COMPRESSION SPRING, 38,30 MM    1464619634    34    1
1 460 100 902    SELECTION GROUP SHIM RING    1460100902    35    1
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    36    1
1 465 530 301    CLOSING COVER    1465530301    37    1
1 463 414 344    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414344    38    2
1 461 074 312    COVER PLATE    1461074312    39    1
1 463 414 344    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414344    40    2
1 468 376 036    HYDRAULIC HEAD    1468376036    50    1
2 460 210 012    O-RING    2460210012    51    1
   SELECTION GROUP SHIM       52    1
1 460 105 305    GASKET    1460105305    54    6
2 463 370 021    FITTING    2463370021    58    6
1 463 414 312    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414312    60    2
1 460 210 008    O-RING    1460210008    66    2
1 467 134 928    MANIFOLD-PRESSURE COMP.    1467134928    67    1
1 463 162 107    SHAFT    1463162107    68    1
1 460 200 333    SPACER RING    1460200333    69    1
1 461 902 138    CONTROL LEVER    1461902138    72    1
1 463 315 310    FLANGE NUT    1463315310    75    1
   ADJUSTING SCREW       88    1
1 461 015 302    GASKET    1461015302    92    1
1 461 907 190    FULCRUM LEVER    1461907190    95    1
2 916 012 017    PLAIN WASHER, DIN 433 - 10,5-160 HV    2916012017    103    1
1 463 452 313    SLOTTED SHOULDER SCREW    1463452313    104    2
1 460 105 307    GASKET    1460105307    105    2
1 464 613 611    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464613611    106    2
1 463 300 304    HEXAGON NUT    1463300304    107    1
1 463 590 311    GOVERNOR SHAFT    1463590311    108    1
1 460 210 313    O-RING    1460210313    109    1
1 461 030 343    SHIM PLATE, 0,95 MM    1461030343    110    1
   SELECTION GROUP SUPPORTING DISK       111    1
1 466 317 319    FLYWEIGHT ASSEMBLY    1466317319    112    1
1 460 100 280    SHIM RING    1460100280    114    1
1 460 422 323    SLIDING SLEEVE    1460422323    115    1
1 460 508 309    SEALING CAP    1460508309    116    1
1 463 203 907    SELECTION GROUP PLUG    1463203907    117    1
1 463 123 396    RETAINING PIN    1463123396    120    1
1 464 610 556    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464610556    121    1
1 464 650 466    EXTENSION SPRING    1464650466    122    1
2 910 142 207    HEX-SOCKET-HEAD CAP SCREW, ISO 4762 - M6x35-8.8    2910142207    123    4
1 460 210 349    O-RING    1460210349    129    1
2 463 452 001    SCREW PLUG    2463452001    130    1
2 463 461 001    BLEEDER SCREW    2463461001    132    1
1 460 225 081    O-RING    1460225081    133    1
1 460 225 082    O-RING    1460225082    134    1
1 460 362 310    CONTROL VALVE    1460362310    135    1
1 463 456 303    HOLLOW BOLT    1463456303    136    1
1 460 591 315    PROTECTIVE CAP    1460591315    140    1
2 410 508 006    PROTECTIVE CAP    2410508006    141    1
1 410 407 004    PROTECTION SLEEVE    1410407004    142    1
2 464 633 002    COMPRESSION SPRING    2464633002    200    1
1 460 500 307    SPRING SEAT    1460500307    203    1
2 915 021 004    HEXAGON NUT, DIN 934 - M14x1,5-8-A    2915021004    206    1
2 916 699 137    SPRING LOCK WASHER, DIN 128 - A14-FSt    2916699137    207    1
1 900 508 202    PROTECTIVE CAP    1900508202    209    1
1 460 591 308    PROTECTIVE CAP    1460591308    213    1
1 464 651 461    COILED SPRING    1464651461    220    1
1 467 230 433    CONTROL UNIT    1467230433    235    1
1 463 414 305    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414305    237    2
0 330 001 040    PUSHING ELECTROMAGNET    0330001040    240    1
2 910 142 203    HEX-SOCKET-HEAD CAP SCREW, ISO 4762 - M6x25-8.8    2910142203    254    2
1 466 434 325    COUPLING HALF    1466434325    270    1
2 916 699 132    SPRING LOCK WASHER, DIN 128 - A6-FSt    2916699132    275    1
2 910 142 195    HEX-SOCKET-HEAD CAP SCREW, ISO 4762 - M6x14-8.8    2910142195    276    2
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    277    1
1 461 900 503    CONTROL LEVER    1461900503    289    1
1 463 433 310    WASHER-AND-SCREW ASSEMBLY    1463433310    292    1
1 460 491 300    GUIDE SLEEVE    1460491300    294    1
1 460 410 310    SPRING SLEEVE    1460410310    295    1
2 912 742 154    CHEESE HEAD SCREW    2912742154    296    1
1 463 305 308    CLAMPING PIECE    1463305308    297    1
1 460 522 328    SPRING SEAT    1460522328    325    1
1 460 522 304    SPRING SEAT    1460522304    329    1
1 463 456 304    BLEEDER SCREW    1463456304    336    1
2 916 710 607    FLAT SEAL RING, DIN 7603 - A12x15,5-Cu    2916710607    337    2
1 460 793 339    BREATHER TUBE    1460793339    338    1
1 460 101 620    SHIM    1460101620    380    1
1 465 530 863    FITTING COVER    1465530863    381    1
1 461 901 681    CONTROL LEVER    1461901681    382    1
1 461 901 679    CONTROL LEVER    1461901679    382    1
1 461 329 306    STOP BRACKET    1461329306    383    1
1 464 651 422    COILED SPRING    1464651422    384    1
2 916 699 132    SPRING LOCK WASHER, DIN 128 - A6-FSt    2916699132    385    1
2 915 012 007    HEXAGON NUT, ISO 4032 - M6-8-A    2915012007    386    1
1 460 210 322    O-RING    1460210322    392    1
1 463 414 306    LOCKING SCREW    1463414306    393    1
1 461 331 325    INTERMEDIATE PLATE    1461331325    394    1
1 465 134 959    ASSEMBLY OF SERVICE PARTS PUMP HOUSING    1465134959    800    1
1 467 010 510    PARTS SET FLYWEIGHT    1467010510    805    1
1 467 010 547    PARTS SET CLOSURE CAP    1467010547    808    1
1 467 010 548    PARTS SET CLOSURE CAP    1467010548    811    1
1 467 010 549    PARTS SET SECURING CAP    1467010549    814    1
1 423 450 037    BREAK-OFF SCREW    1423450037    815    1
0 330 001 040    PUSHING ELECTROMAGNET    0330001040    960    1
2 460 283 001    SHAFT SEALING RING    2460283001    3    1
1 467 030 308    SUPPLY PUMP    1467030308    7    1
1 460 134 317    SUPPORT RING    1460134317    9    1
1 463 429 300    TORX FLAT-HEAD SCREW    1463429300    10    2
1 466 100 391    DRIVE SHAFT    1466100391    12    1
1 460 023 302    WOODRUFF KEY    1460023302    13    1
1 460 056 302    BUFFER    1460056302    15    2
1 466 317 301    TOOTHED GEAR    1466317301    16    1
2 460 102 001    SLIDING DISK    2460102001    17    1
1 460 232 377    ROLLER RING    1460232377    20    1
2 463 100 002    BEARING PIN    2463100002    21    4
2 460 300 005    ROLLER    2460300005    22    4
2 460 120 013    FRICTION WASHER    2460120013    23    4
1 463 103 315    ADJUSTING PIN    1463103315    24    1
1 463 120 359    RETAINING PIN    1463120359    25    1
1 461 310 300    RETAINING BRACKET    1461310300    26    1
1 460 140 334    CROSS DISK    1460140334    27    1
1 466 111 662    CAM PLATE    1466111662    29    1
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    30    1
1 463 104 702    TIMING-DEVICE PISTON    1463104702    31    1
1 463 218 312    SLIDING PIECE    1463218312    32    1
1 460 100 902    SELECTION GROUP SHIM RING    1460100902    33    2
1 464 619 633    COMPRESSION SPRING, 38,20 MM    1464619633    34    1
1 464 619 634    COMPRESSION SPRING, 38,30 MM    1464619634    34    1
1 460 100 902    SELECTION GROUP SHIM RING    1460100902    35    1
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    36    1
1 465 530 301    CLOSING COVER    1465530301    37    1
1 463 414 344    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414344    38    2
1 461 074 312    COVER PLATE    1461074312    39    1
1 463 414 344    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414344    40    2
1 468 376 036    HYDRAULIC HEAD    1468376036    50    1
2 460 210 012    O-RING    2460210012    51    1
   SELECTION GROUP SHIM       52    1
1 460 105 305    GASKET    1460105305    54    6
2 463 370 021    FITTING    2463370021    58    6
1 463 414 312    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414312    60    2
1 460 210 008    O-RING    1460210008    66    2
1 467 134 928    MANIFOLD-PRESSURE COMP.    1467134928    67    1
1 463 162 107    SHAFT    1463162107    68    1
1 460 200 333    SPACER RING    1460200333    69    1
1 461 902 138    CONTROL LEVER    1461902138    72    1
1 463 315 310    FLANGE NUT    1463315310    75    1
   ADJUSTING SCREW       88    1
1 461 015 302    GASKET    1461015302    92    1
1 461 907 190    FULCRUM LEVER    1461907190    95    1
2 916 012 017    PLAIN WASHER, DIN 433 - 10,5-160 HV    2916012017    103    1
1 463 452 313    SLOTTED SHOULDER SCREW    1463452313    104    2
1 460 105 307    GASKET    1460105307    105    2
1 464 613 611    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464613611    106    2
1 463 300 304    HEXAGON NUT    1463300304    107    1
1 463 590 311    GOVERNOR SHAFT    1463590311    108    1
1 460 210 313    O-RING    1460210313    109    1
1 461 030 343    SHIM PLATE, 0,95 MM    1461030343    110    1
   SELECTION GROUP SUPPORTING DISK       111    1
1 466 317 319    FLYWEIGHT ASSEMBLY    1466317319    112    1
1 460 100 280    SHIM RING    1460100280    114    1
1 460 422 323    SLIDING SLEEVE    1460422323    115    1
1 460 508 309    SEALING CAP    1460508309    116    1
1 463 203 907    SELECTION GROUP PLUG    1463203907    117    1
1 463 123 396    RETAINING PIN    1463123396    120    1
1 464 610 556    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464610556    121    1
1 464 650 466    EXTENSION SPRING    1464650466    122    1
2 910 142 207    HEX-SOCKET-HEAD CAP SCREW, ISO 4762 - M6x35-8.8    2910142207    123    4
1 460 210 349    O-RING    1460210349    129    1
2 463 452 001    SCREW PLUG    2463452001    130    1
2 463 461 001    BLEEDER SCREW    2463461001    132    1
1 460 225 081    O-RING    1460225081    133    1
1 460 225 082    O-RING    1460225082    134    1
1 460 362 310    CONTROL VALVE    1460362310    135    1
1 463 456 303    HOLLOW BOLT    1463456303    136    1
1 460 591 315    PROTECTIVE CAP    1460591315    140    1
2 410 508 006    PROTECTIVE CAP    2410508006    141    1
1 410 407 004    PROTECTION SLEEVE    1410407004    142    1
2 464 633 002    COMPRESSION SPRING    2464633002    200    1
1 460 500 307    SPRING SEAT    1460500307    203    1
2 915 021 004    HEXAGON NUT, DIN 934 - M14x1,5-8-A    2915021004    206    1
2 916 699 137    SPRING LOCK WASHER, DIN 128 - A14-FSt    2916699137    207    1
1 900 508 202    PROTECTIVE CAP    1900508202    209    1
1 460 591 308    PROTECTIVE CAP    1460591308    213    1
1 464 651 461    COILED SPRING    1464651461    220    1
1 467 230 433    CONTROL UNIT    1467230433    235    1
1 463 414 305    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414305    237    2
0 330 001 040    PUSHING ELECTROMAGNET    0330001040    240    1
2 910 142 203    HEX-SOCKET-HEAD CAP SCREW, ISO 4762 - M6x25-8.8    2910142203    254    2
1 466 434 325    COUPLING HALF    1466434325    270    1
2 916 699 132    SPRING LOCK WASHER, DIN 128 - A6-FSt    2916699132    275    1
2 910 142 195    HEX-SOCKET-HEAD CAP SCREW, ISO 4762 - M6x14-8.8    2910142195    276    2
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    277    1
1 461 900 503    CONTROL LEVER    1461900503    289    1
1 463 433 310    WASHER-AND-SCREW ASSEMBLY    1463433310    292    1
1 460 491 300    GUIDE SLEEVE    1460491300    294    1
1 460 410 310    SPRING SLEEVE    1460410310    295    1
2 912 742 154    CHEESE HEAD SCREW    2912742154    296    1
1 463 305 308    CLAMPING PIECE    1463305308    297    1
1 460 522 328    SPRING SEAT    1460522328    325    1
1 460 522 304    SPRING SEAT    1460522304    329    1
1 463 456 304    BLEEDER SCREW    1463456304    336    1
2 916 710 607    FLAT SEAL RING, DIN 7603 - A12x15,5-Cu    2916710607    337    2
1 460 793 339    BREATHER TUBE    1460793339    338    1
1 460 101 620    SHIM    1460101620    380    1
1 465 530 863    FITTING COVER    1465530863    381    1
1 461 901 681    CONTROL LEVER    1461901681    382    1
1 461 901 679    CONTROL LEVER    1461901679    382    1
1 461 329 306    STOP BRACKET    1461329306    383    1
1 464 651 422    COILED SPRING    1464651422    384    1
2 916 699 132    SPRING LOCK WASHER, DIN 128 - A6-FSt    2916699132    385    1
2 915 012 007    HEXAGON NUT, ISO 4032 - M6-8-A    2915012007    386    1
1 460 210 322    O-RING    1460210322    392    1
1 463 414 306    LOCKING SCREW    1463414306    393    1
1 461 331 325    INTERMEDIATE PLATE    1461331325    394    1
1 465 134 959    ASSEMBLY OF SERVICE PARTS PUMP HOUSING    1465134959    800    1
1 467 010 510    PARTS SET FLYWEIGHT    1467010510    805    1
1 467 010 547    PARTS SET CLOSURE CAP    1467010547    808    1
1 467 010 548    PARTS SET CLOSURE CAP    1467010548    811    1
1 467 010 549    PARTS SET SECURING CAP    1467010549    814    1
1 423 450 037    BREAK-OFF SCREW    1423450037    815    1
0 330 001 040    PUSHING ELECTROMAGNET    0330001040    960    1

Reply #5August 03, 2019, 12:04:44 pm

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Re: Found: one Bosch VE six cylinder pump
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2019, 12:04:44 pm »
Hello.
I don't think that a pump from an industrial engine can be cheaper or easier to find.
Are the control collar levers always right for mechanical TDI pumps?
I found a fulcrum lever used for both 12mm and 8mm pumps.
1 461 902 673
0460414001,0460414095,0460416001,0460416003,0460416015,0460416026,0460424010,0460424013,0460424014,0460484009.
That's from a 2005-2006 catalogue and it's the only one exemple.
Then I found another fulcrum lever 1 461 907 793, it's used on the 0460404096 pump accordind 2005-2006 and 2009-2010 catalogues,it's for an IDI engine by Sofim.
Looking for it on web I found it's used on 12mm pump for industrial engines and a 8mm pump used on a 1.9 VW industruial engine used on Multicar.
Maybe low rpms industrial DI engines can use the same levers as high rpms IDI engines.
Are there 10mm mechanical pumps from DI engines? I haven't find one yet. Generally they are 11mm pumps.
I'm going to think that there are no standard parts by Bosch that can be used to build a very good 10mm mechanical pump for a TDI, it takes to modify parts always,doesn't it?