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February 17, 2008, 07:15:50 pm

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« on: February 17, 2008, 07:15:50 pm »
i own a polo 6n with a N/A diesel engine code AEF, i would just like to know if it can be turbo'd if so what bits will i need, also what will i need to change (i.e. piston's comprasion ratio?) and how much power output am i likely to recive.


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Reply #1February 17, 2008, 07:44:48 pm

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 07:44:48 pm »
you could just slap a turbo on and increase fueling a little bit, but more smoke off boost.  N/A's aren't built to take the heat like TD's do, although there is some speculation that at a certain point N/A heads were the same as TD heads.


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Reply #2February 18, 2008, 09:44:12 am

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 09:44:12 am »
Im beginning to think that the only reason people say this is because they have never tried turboing a N/A 1.5

Im told with the larger exhaust downpipe you will not need oil quirters or even the hydro lifter.......

I know people on this board that have both a turboed N/a 1.5 and a reg 1.6td

who knows...In time Im going to have alot more experiences with this and can up-date for those who wonder like me...It would be nice to know forsure about the heads being the same...???

Reply #3March 06, 2008, 09:33:12 am

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 09:33:12 am »
I got a Polo 6N to myself. It has oil squirters and the cylinderhead and pistons are identical to the AAZ stuff.

The main problem is the gearbox (085) and the clutch. Than the second problem. Can't mount a 02A gearbox easily because the engine is leaning forward intstead of backwards as in all the other diesels.

Than the Lucas IP. Get rid of it and place a AAZ pump. (better performance and better fuel consumption without the turbo mounted) You have to cut out a little plastic from the lock plate where the headlights are mounted in. For clearance of the LDA.

I stil have to dril the hole in the back of the engine for the oil return hose. The other things are plug and play. The oil feedline can be mounted directly to the oil filter adapter.

Injectors are the same replacement as on the 1.9D. I switched them over for DNO-SD261 with dual stage 1.9TD bodies.

Intake manifold is ok for now. Because I'm going to place a T2 from a AHU TDI it fits.

As soon as the new engine and transmission supports are ready than I'm going to put the M-TDI wit 02A in the car. (needs time and money  :cry:  )

Reply #4March 06, 2008, 01:43:47 pm

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 01:43:47 pm »
I have a AEF in my Skoda Pickup, and I know a few Skodas that are running with turbo. One that has over 200hp  :shock: so yes, it is possible to put a turbo on a AEF.
I think (not sure) that you will have to change the mounting bracket for the Bosch IP.
Just get the exhaust manifold, turbo and IP from a Golf GTD or a AAZ Passat..

That´s on the TO-DO list for me too, but first I´m going to give my truck an inch or 2 of lift...
Caddy 1.6N/A pushing 400 000km and going strong!

Reply #5March 06, 2008, 02:20:52 pm

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 02:20:52 pm »
1.9 NA pistons and rods are different than 1.9TD. But no worries, those will be fine too.
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Reply #6March 07, 2008, 02:46:07 am

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 02:46:07 am »
I've checked the internals of my AEF 1.9D and there where oil squirters and according to the VAG part software whe pistons and rods are the same.

This engine is not the same as the 1X engine in the Golf / Jetta Mk3.

Reply #7March 07, 2008, 09:50:09 am

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 09:50:09 am »
Yes, every 1,9 diesel has squirters. Yes, AEF has differents from 1Y etc 1,9NA´s. But it has same connecting rods and pistons as other 1,9 NA´s, which are different than 1,9TD ones. Rods are 6mm longer, pistons are same 6mm shorter and piston pin is 24mm.
At least this is what etka and mahle catalogue says.
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Reply #8March 07, 2008, 03:15:42 pm

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 03:15:42 pm »
Aha ok, thanks for the correction.

I think it will last with a turbo and mild boost until I finish up the M-TDI with 02A tranny.

Reply #9March 14, 2008, 02:57:58 pm

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 02:57:58 pm »
Quote from: "DA-BRT"
I got a Polo 6N to myself. It has oil squirters and the cylinderhead and pistons are identical to the AAZ stuff.

The main problem is the gearbox (085) and the clutch. Than the second problem. Can't mount a 02A gearbox easily because the engine is leaning forward intstead of backwards as in all the other diesels.

Than the Lucas IP. Get rid of it and place a AAZ pump. (better performance and better fuel consumption without the turbo mounted) You have to cut out a little plastic from the lock plate where the headlights are mounted in. For clearance of the LDA.

I stil have to dril the hole in the back of the engine for the oil return hose. The other things are plug and play. The oil feedline can be mounted directly to the oil filter adapter.

Injectors are the same replacement as on the 1.9D. I switched them over for DNO-SD261 with dual stage 1.9TD bodies.

Intake manifold is ok for now. Because I'm going to place a T2 from a AHU TDI it fits.

As soon as the new engine and transmission supports are ready than I'm going to put the M-TDI wit 02A in the car. (needs time and money  :cry:  )


i found a cable operating O2A gearbox out of the ibiza's so no need to mess about with hydralics, when you've got the mounts made let me know as i might need them from you to copy or pay you to make me a set, thanks for help

sorry about this but all i have to get is a
Fuel Pump
Turbo and Manifold out of ???( what engine/ Car)
what else as i already have bought a vento with a 1Z engine is this anygood for any parts??? or should i let it go to the scrap
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Reply #10March 15, 2008, 07:55:30 am

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 07:55:30 am »
There's a turbo converted skoda 1,9d (same engine as in the Polo 6N). He's running up to 2,2 bar! And the engine is totally stock.

Best 1/4 mile: 13,96 @ 162 km/h.

Turbo: Switzer S1BG

Modified pump ofcourse. http://www.skodapg.se

Reply #11March 15, 2008, 12:45:07 pm

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 12:45:07 pm »
Quote from: "Bojje"
There's a turbo converted skoda 1,9d (same engine as in the Polo 6N). He's running up to 2,2 bar! And the engine is totally stock.

Best 1/4 mile: 13,96 @ 162 km/h.

Turbo: Switzer S1BG

Modified pump ofcourse. http://www.skodapg.se


do you know what he's done in terms of spec and how to do as i need to start doing my one soon
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Reply #12March 15, 2008, 03:07:41 pm

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 03:07:41 pm »
Quote from: "DUB IT UP"
Quote from: "Bojje"
There's a turbo converted skoda 1,9d (same engine as in the Polo 6N). He's running up to 2,2 bar! And the engine is totally stock.

Best 1/4 mile: 13,96 @ 162 km/h.

Turbo: Switzer S1BG

Modified pump ofcourse. http://www.skodapg.se


do you know what he's done in terms of spec and how to do as i need to start doing my one soon


What specs do you need to know? There's plenty of info on the page so it would be nice to know what you want to know so that I can translate it for you.

Reply #13March 17, 2008, 04:38:04 am

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 04:38:04 am »
You can also use one of these to change the 6N it to 02A transmission:

http://www.sorgmotorsport.de/Kataloge/2008/Aktionen2008/Getriebeumbau%20Golf02A.pdf

Reply #14March 19, 2008, 04:28:08 pm

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2008, 04:28:08 pm »
Quote from: "Bojje"
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Quote from: "Bojje"
There's a turbo converted skoda 1,9d (same engine as in the Polo 6N). He's running up to 2,2 bar! And the engine is totally stock.

Best 1/4 mile: 13,96 @ 162 km/h.

Turbo: Switzer S1BG

Modified pump ofcourse. http://www.skodapg.se


do you know what he's done in terms of spec and how to do as i need to start doing my one soon


What specs do you need to know? There's plenty of info on the page so it would be nice to know what you want to know so that I can translate it for you.


thanks for help all of it would be appreciated if you could as i can't seem to get to the spec list as well as the how to do bit(sorry for being silly) thanks again
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