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January 01, 2008, 10:28:34 pm

westcoaster

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« on: January 01, 2008, 10:28:34 pm »
I'm in the process of stripping down the 1.6TD for rebuild.

The bolt on the crank... Is that a left hand loosen or a right hand loosen? (I wasn't able to get it to budge...)

Injector pump sprocket removal.... Any tips on this?
I put a puller on it and tried tapping with a hammer. So far, no go...


Thanks,


'87 suzuki samurai with a 1.9 AAZ TD transplant

Reply #1January 01, 2008, 10:34:11 pm

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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 10:34:11 pm »
lefty loosy

on the IP get a good puller and slightly tap on the bolt part of the puller when its under a fair amount of tension.

Reply #2January 01, 2008, 10:56:52 pm

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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 10:56:52 pm »
An impact is nice.

If you have the stretch bolt and no impact then you need something to hold the crank in place.  

In the following thread (vwdieselparts.com/forum) there is libbybapa's crank holder.

http://www.vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=771&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

There's also some improvised pump pully methods in the same thread.
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Reply #3January 01, 2008, 11:17:49 pm

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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 11:17:49 pm »
Brahahahaha!!!!

Here I thought my weak knee impact gun was going to do damage to the sprocket bolt....

What I really need is a whole lot of leverage!

'87 suzuki samurai with a 1.9 AAZ TD transplant

Reply #4January 02, 2008, 09:26:51 am

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 09:26:51 am »
Alternatively, set up the gas axe, and an impact with the correct socket close at hand.

Fire up the gas axe.  Heat the head of the bolt until its just starts to turn red.  Shut off the torch and immediatly apply the impact wrench.  Typically they pop right out.

When I put the bolt back in, I put on a big gob of red Loctite, and wack it back in with the impact.

I know it sound primitive, and the bolt may become tempered, but I haven't had a failure yet, and I've done it hundreds of times.
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Reply #5January 02, 2008, 10:12:36 am

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 10:12:36 am »
Shouldn't be re-using the bolt anyways, it's a stretch bolt.

I'd be more worried about doing something to the crank, I suspect it would be less tolerant of heat cycling than the bolt.

Reply #6January 02, 2008, 03:24:22 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 03:24:22 pm »
Especially on a AAZ  8)
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Reply #7January 02, 2008, 10:26:24 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 10:26:24 pm »
I'll second the stretch bolt and proper torquing procedure.

12 point bolt is a stretch bolt.  Dont reuse it.
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Reply #8January 02, 2008, 11:00:24 pm

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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 11:00:24 pm »
Ok,
now I'm getting confused.....

The head on the 1.6TD crank bolt didn't appear to be any different than any other bolt. (6 points)
Is it a streach bolt still?
'87 suzuki samurai with a 1.9 AAZ TD transplant

Reply #9January 02, 2008, 11:11:09 pm

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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 11:11:09 pm »
Quote from: "westcoaster"
Ok,
now I'm getting confused.....

The head on the 1.6TD crank bolt didn't appear to be any different than any other bolt. (6 points)
Is it a streach bolt still?


Yeah... it's a bit confusing.. but it's mostly just a historical difference.

The original OEM bolt on the early series of 1.5 and 1.6 diesels had six sides (and wasn't a stretch bolt iirc) but the replacement bolts for the 1.6 series and *all* of the 1.9s are an improved design 12-point stretch bolt.

If you buy a new crank bolt for any VW diesel at the moment they will hand you a new and improved 12-pointer.
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